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Old 08-12-2005, 10:37 AM   #1
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I'm currently selling my '91 Legacy Turbo (it's posted for sale in the SouthEast forum) and am looking at replacing it with a 2000-2004 Legacy Sedan (as a daily driver) but many of the candidates are 4EAT models.

Occasionally my '91SS had to fill in for autocross duties (when the 2.5RS was out of commission for whatever reason), but certain aspects of the auto tranny really sucked the life out of it. I know the newer 4EATs are much more responsive on sudden acceleration (so that part should be better), but there are a couple other characteristics I'm wondering about:

1) If you select 1st gear and wind out to redline, does the car hold the rev limiter or automatically shift to 2nd? (The '91SS auto-shifts to 2nd.)

2) If you select 1st gear and wind out to near redline, then let off to decel, does the car engine brake through first gear? (The '91SS engine brakes in every gear *except* 1st. )

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Old 08-12-2005, 01:05 PM   #2
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1.) Holds
2.) Engine brake in every gear(1-3).
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:06 PM   #3
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When you select first or second gear, you are locked into those gears. Also if you select those gears you lock the torque split to 50/50, which it is normally otherwise 90/10 to the front until slipping is sensed.

Honestly, just get a 5 speed, unless you are only able to use a automatic or one is a commuter, manual is much more fun(take it from me going from 4eat to 6MT) and you can control all aspects of the cars shifting.

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Old 08-12-2005, 04:13 PM   #4
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1.) Holds
2.) Engine brake in every gear(1-3).
That is GREAT news...thanks.

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Honestly, just get a 5 speed, unless you are only able to use a automatic or one is a commuter, manual is much more fun(take it from me going from 4eat to 6MT) and you can control all aspects of the cars shifting.
Believe me I would. Ideally I want a white 5-speed 2000-2004 Legacy GT sedan, but the only one that fits that exact description is nearly 200 miles away (Roanoke, VA) and is currently listed at higher than KBB dealer retail price. Most of the local and/or cheaper deals have 4EATs instead. Since this will primarily be my daily driver / commuter, I can deal with an automatic tranny if I must (especially when I-240 or I-26 decides to come to a dead stop in the afternoons... ).

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Old 08-12-2005, 05:32 PM   #5
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Let me mention a few other downers though.

*downshifting to 1st is usually bad mojo in my experience(nice clunk and very jerky). I would only put into first from a dead stop if I were you.
*leaving in 2nd at 0mph means it takes off from 2nd(very slowly).
*3rd goes from 1 to 3.
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:44 AM   #6
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I have a 98 gt 4EAT and I shift it through 1st, 2nd and 3rd as I would my 97 5 MT ... I've also driven this in autocross and rallycross events the past two years ... the gearing in the 4EAT is better suited to rallyx and autox ... I can top 60 in 2nd with the 4EAT ... but have to shift to 3rd with MT in the 97...

I dont have any problems shifting into first ... just watch your rpms ... I am also running same tranny fluid that Subaru WRT uses ...NEO synthetic ATF ... expensive but it works very well

I do have full Brunnel set up from equal lenght headers back in the 98 4EAT ... and this does help .... the 98 gt is at least 2 seconds quicker to 60 than my 97 5MT in which the engine is still fully stock

I love the 5 MT ... but I'm also very pleased with the 4 EAT in the 98... If I had to consistently drive in heavy stop & go traffic ... I'd choose the 4EAT ..

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Old 08-13-2005, 12:47 AM   #7
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...NEO synthetic ATF ... expensive but it works very well
do you have a vendor you use to get this stuff?
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:58 AM   #8
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:17 PM   #9
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Just my personal experience, but I find that the 4EAT in my '96 GT is quicker and more responsive than the one in my parent's 2001 Outback. It's quicker to upshift, and does it with less drama. The '96 also has much shorter ratios.
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