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Old 08-13-2005, 03:48 PM   #1
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Exclamation yokohama es100, opinions?!

hey i just replaced my azenis with these tires and i was just wondering what opinions others might have on them. i know i coulda got better ones but at the time it was kinda of an emergency since i had an irrepairable tire and i had to replace all 4 and i couldnt wait 2 days sinc ei had to get back towork the next day. i hear they re alright but i still like my azenis better. feedback pls thanks.
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Old 08-13-2005, 08:56 PM   #2
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:43 PM   #3
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They are very good, if not perfect tires. No worries.

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Old 08-16-2005, 02:37 PM   #4
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If you say they are perfect then they must be perfect.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:42 PM   #5
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they car good tires. i have a set on my Acura RL. The thing is a hog but the tires give her some grip. Not bad in the rain either but never in the snow.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:48 PM   #6
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If you say they are perfect then they must be perfect.
I said "not perfect." There are two ways to read that statement, you picked the one I didnt intend. They certaintly arent perfect, but what I have found on these forums is you have a very vocal minority that seems to place a small group of tires as great(coincidentally most often the ones they just bought) and everything else is crap. Which is crap. The AVS ES100s are very good tires for the price.

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Old 08-16-2005, 04:17 PM   #7
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I have run the Yoko AVS intermediates for years on my cars. Excellent tire.
Then the AVS's were no more, so I decided to try the ES100's.

I have used Yoko tires since the early 1970's when they first hit the USA. I have brand loyality. (remember the old dogbone tire pattern yoko?)

Anyway, the tire is heads and shoulders better than the AVS, and I thought the AVS was one fanatstic tire!

I think the ES100 has extremely good dry grip, excellent wet grip and at a very good price. They are noisy like the old AVS's though.

They sound like a bad wheel bearing on my WRX. The Mazda Protege with them are nice and quiet for now.

My next set for the WRX and GTX will be of course, the ES100's!

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Old 08-16-2005, 04:50 PM   #8
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i don't think these tires are as bad as some people say. alot has to do with how hard you drive them. dry grip seems good enough considering how i drive. noise is kinda lound but hey that's what you get with a tire like this but i would like something a tad quieter next time. my main complaint is wet traction, though it's still better tire than what most other cars are running it seems to slippery to be used on a awd or rwd car. i would not buy these tires again cause there are better tires like the hankook rs-2 and falken fk451 that can perform better in the dry/wet and costs less.
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:55 PM   #9
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great tires. love em.
ive had the potenza RE070s and i must say i like these es100s just as much as i enjoyed the RE070s.

good tire choice, cant complain with that price either.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:28 PM   #10
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...what I have found on these forums is you have a very vocal minority that seems to place a small group of tires as great(coincidentally most often the ones they just bought) and everything else is crap. Which is crap.
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Amen. I was wondering if I wes the only one around here feeling that way.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:34 PM   #11
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.....and way too many people wouldn't know a steaming pile of poo if they stepped in it, either......so what's yer point???


....for the same $$$(or less) there are MUCH better choices than the es100 available.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:37 PM   #12
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I ran a set of ES-100s and they tramlined like crazy.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:37 PM   #13
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The ES100 don't have a lot of grip, and are relatively loud. You can probably do better for your money, but they're not horrible.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:48 PM   #14
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I like them. I have 235/40's on 17x8" wheels
great in dry, best ive had in a long time in wet. dunno bout the snow yet
for the price of 111 ea. (tirerack.com) i would buy them again
b/c its hard to get a good all around tire w/ a name brand for that kinda price
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Old 08-17-2005, 04:21 AM   #15
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i like them. I was running 235/45r17's. but they were kinda loud. now I have nitto neo gens. I like the yoks better. my buddy just dropped off 8 es100s 225/45r17s for free at my house. I am happy!
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:03 AM   #16
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I had plus zero z-rated ES100s, and they were fantastic. IMO, excellent dry road grip, and impressive water shedding ability. When I had the ES100 equipped, I was a direct responder for a volunteer fire department. I can honestly say those tires are good for at least 90 mph in moderately heavy rain with only about 5/32 tread.

The cons to the the tires were they were loud, and I barely got two seasons out of them (Wisconsin summer tire season - April to November).

The pros were they gripped like crazy in wet and dry, THE TIRE RACK had a great price when I bought them, and they gripped like crazy. Did I mention they gripped like crazy?

I have had various other Yokes on various other cars, and the ES100 were the best performing, but not the longest lasting. I liked them better than the AVS Intermediates that I had.

I now have Kumho v-rated 712 tires. I got them because a) they were affordable, and b) a friend HIGHLY recommended them. I was also looking to try something that might last longer than the ES100s. I must say that I am disappointed with the dry road performance of the 712s. I know it's v-rated vs. z-rated, but they don't even come close to comparing to the ES100s. We are experiencing drought conditions here this summer, so I can't compare the wet weather performance.

I miss the ES100s. I highly recommend them. If you can live with the noise and faster-than-average wear, I think you'll like them.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:04 PM   #17
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I had plus zero z-rated ES100s, and they were fantastic. IMO, excellent dry road grip, and impressive water shedding ability. When I had the ES100 equipped, I was a direct responder for a volunteer fire department. I can honestly say those tires are good for at least 90 mph in moderately heavy rain with only about 5/32 tread.

The cons to the the tires were they were loud, and I barely got two seasons out of them (Wisconsin summer tire season - April to November).

The pros were they gripped like crazy in wet and dry, THE TIRE RACK had a great price when I bought them, and they gripped like crazy. Did I mention they gripped like crazy?

I have had various other Yokes on various other cars, and the ES100 were the best performing, but not the longest lasting. I liked them better than the AVS Intermediates that I had.

I now have Kumho v-rated 712 tires. I got them because a) they were affordable, and b) a friend HIGHLY recommended them. I was also looking to try something that might last longer than the ES100s. I must say that I am disappointed with the dry road performance of the 712s. I know it's v-rated vs. z-rated, but they don't even come close to comparing to the ES100s. We are experiencing drought conditions here this summer, so I can't compare the wet weather performance.

I miss the ES100s. I highly recommend them. If you can live with the noise and faster-than-average wear, I think you'll like them.

this is an example of what Uncle Scotty is talking about. Kumho 712s are complete junk, so of couse ES100s are going to be teh win. People who have experience with better tires know there is something better out there for the same money or less. FK451s can be had for $19 per tire less than ES100s and perform better. Why pay $76 more for a tire that won't perform as well??? Which is why i will not by another set of ES100s.
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.....and way too many people wouldn't know a steaming pile of poo if they stepped in it, either......so what's yer point???
Dont go beating yourself up Unc.

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Old 08-17-2005, 12:11 PM   #19
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this is an example of what Uncle Scotty is talking about. Kumho 712s are complete junk, so of couse ES100s are going to be teh win. People who have experience with better tires know there is something better out there for the same money or less. FK451s can be had for $19 per tire less than ES100s and perform better. Why pay $76 more for a tire that won't perform as well??? Which is why i will not by another set of ES100s.
While it may be true that there are better tires out there in some regards it doesnt make the other tire crap. There can be more than one good tire.

712s are also not bad tires for the money.

If you want to call a tire crap, try Mastercraft tires on sale for 4 for $99 at your local discounter. Now IMO those are crap. Neither the ES100s or 712s deserve that moniker IMO. They are quite a bit better than quite a few tires in their class.

Just keepin it real.

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Old 08-17-2005, 01:19 PM   #20
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They have much better midcorner feel than the kuhmo's (both ESX and 712's) but I think they may wear a littler quicker. I've notice they have a smoother straight line feel but they tend to follow road imperfections a little more. so far, I like them.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:22 AM   #21
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yes i agree, they do gollow road imperfections more, these tires arent bad at all but im just sad because i miss my azenis. these tires were a step down from my azenis, i dont care too much for rain or noise, i dont even notice the noise and i stay in arizona on a military base so rain isnt really a factor. thanks for all the feedback guys, made me feel alot better bout getting these tires, oh by the way i got these tires for $75 a piece cuz i knew the guy who hooked it up. so i guess they really arent all that bad.thanks again
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:32 AM   #22
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I took my ES100's off my Cobra after only 8000 miles, and replaced them with BFG KD's and they were light years better. ( far more money though )
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I have had two sets. They squeal in the corners giving lots of advance warning before break away. Tramline like crazy in lower temps which is a pain. For the money I'll take them any day. Then again, it's the only brand of performance tires I have ever owned aside from some Michelin pilots. Not for the cold or snow.
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FK451s can be had for $19 per tire less than ES100s and perform better. Why pay $76 more for a tire that won't perform as well??? Which is why i will not by another set of ES100s.
b/c you get better tread wear. for those of us not looking for track worthy grip they provide enough grip and will get you another 10k miles out of them.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:39 PM   #25
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I've been on these tires since late february, both in everyday driving, quite a few spirited runs, and an autocross. The sidewalls seem like they could be somewhat stiffer allowing for better steering response and feedback, but they're ok. Dry grip is definately great, although hydroplane resistance and wet grip seem to be less than that of the Kumho 711s I had before the ES100s. I'm overall satisfied with the tires.
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