XBOX 360 Thread

TimStevens · 08-17-2005, 07:42 AM

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Well, the recent analyst predictions were right... for once. Two bundles, and the better of the two is not cheap...

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Microsoft Corp. said its next-generation Xbox 360 game console would cost $299 to $399 when the device is launched this holiday season.

The $299 version will come with a wired controller, but will not have the 20-gigabyte hard-disc drive, wireless controller, headset, Ethernet cable and wireless television remote control included in the $399 version.

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Starscream · 08-17-2005, 08:02 AM

$299 yikes!

rogue · 08-17-2005, 08:21 AM

hard drive and ethernet! hello, next modded box!

Stickee · 08-17-2005, 09:38 AM

Man, that kinda sucks. $399 US is gonna be like close to $500 CDN, plus I need to buy a game, I'm looking at over $600.

TimStevens · 08-17-2005, 09:46 AM

Well, get the cheaper one then. You can always upgrade later. Most people will buy two controllers, so if you're going to do that you can get the cheap package, buy a wireless controller, and still save $60+. I'm guessing the HDD and remote will only really be useful if you're going to use the 360 as a media server of some sort, and you can always buy them later if you want to.

F22-Raptor · 08-17-2005, 09:47 AM

299 is what the PS2 started at.. Not that expensive really. Besides the PS3 is going to be much more

jefmcc · 08-17-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickee

Man, that kinda sucks. $399 US is gonna be like close to $500 CDN, plus I need to buy a game, I'm looking at over $600.

But it's essentially the same buying power. Why don't Canada people understand this? We aren't getting a deal because our money is worth more compared to yours.

The cost is the same.

jefmcc · 08-17-2005, 09:51 AM

Way to split your customer base MS.

TimStevens · 08-17-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jefmcc

Way to split your customer base MS.

Huh? How so?

RaceCarRiot · 08-17-2005, 09:59 AM

so...i take it the HD isn't neccessary for games?

TimStevens · 08-17-2005, 10:01 AM

There'll be a standard composite or RF output for the console, and all games will work on standard TVs.

RaceCarRiot · 08-17-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TimStevens

There'll be a standard composite or RF output for the console, and all games will work on standard TVs.

sorry, i meant hard drive.

Stickee · 08-17-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jefmcc

But it's essentially the same buying power. Why don't Canada people understand this? We aren't getting a deal because our money is worth more compared to yours.

The cost is the same.

Yeah, and if I lived in US, $399 would be a lot for me as well. Didn't really say you're getting a deal. I guess I coulda left out the conversion factor, but I was just running the costs through my head.

Oh, and I read somewhere the component cables come with the more expensive bundle. I'll need those too.

TimStevens · 08-17-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RaceCarRiot

sorry, i meant hard drive.

Oh, yeah, I'm not sure exactly what function(s) it'll serve. I'd imagine it'll be a big memory card and will work for downloadable content, but who knows what else.

jefmcc · 08-17-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickee

Yeah, and if I lived in US, $399 would be a lot for me as well. Didn't really say you're getting a deal. I guess I coulda left out the conversion factor, but I was just running the costs through my head.

Oh, and I read somewhere the component cables come with the more expensive bundle. I'll need those too.

I dunno, I have a latent case of the Mondays?

jefmcc · 08-17-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TimStevens

Huh? How so?

The harddrive. You can't tell me that games like Oblivion will not make use of the hard drive. And the hard drive will be used for emulating the older Xbox games. How will people save their games? Maybe it comes with a smaller hard drive?

TimStevens · 08-17-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jefmcc

The harddrive. You can't tell me that games like Oblivion will not make use of the hard drive. And the hard drive will be used for emulating the older Xbox games. How will people save their games? Maybe it comes with a smaller hard drive?

If you don't get the hard drive you'll need a memory card.

And since they haven't fully disclosed how the HDD will be used, it's a little early to say they're screwing over anyone. All the systems games will work without it. Emulation, though, who knows?

beethoven · 08-17-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RaceCarRiot

so...i take it the HD isn't neccessary for games?

I would guess not then.

tommy2hotty · 08-17-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jefmcc

The harddrive. You can't tell me that games like Oblivion will not make use of the hard drive. And the hard drive will be used for emulating the older Xbox games. How will people save their games? Maybe it comes with a smaller hard drive?

Most PS2's dont have hdd... does that mean they cant save games?!?!

jefmcc · 08-17-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy2hotty

Most PS2's dont have hdd... does that mean they cant save games?!?!

Don't be a retard.

PhatheadWRX · 08-17-2005, 10:41 AM

MS screwed up not making a HD standard. The caching system in the original Xbox really sped up game load times.

Everyone really should consider the HD version considering emulation game profiles for original games, downloaded content, music storage, and the sheer price of a mem card to save your games.

MS really should have made the $299 system with the 20 GB HD and made a larger capicity (40,60) for the $399.

gongzero · 08-17-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickee

Yeah, and if I lived in US, $399 would be a lot for me as well. Didn't really say you're getting a deal. I guess I coulda left out the conversion factor, but I was just running the costs through my head.

Oh, and I read somewhere the component cables come with the more expensive bundle. I'll need those too.

But if you live in Canada, and aren't far from the US, then you can take advantage of the weak US dollar and pick it up for less than Canadian retail.

-A

Mud Pig · 08-17-2005, 10:55 AM

$399 isn't much for something that entertains you. I bought a DVD player 4 years ago that costs that much. Suck it up.

tommy2hotty · 08-17-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jefmcc

Don't be a retard.

Me be a retard you just asked how people are gonna save their games haha

Attila_Tha_Hun · 08-17-2005, 11:20 AM

20 gig? Pfff. Definately getting the $299 version and holding out for an actual hard drive.

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08-17-2005, 08:02 AM	#2
Starscream Scooby Specialist Member#: 44292 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Universe/Cybertron Vehicle: ..: F-15 Eagle ..:	$299 yikes!

08-17-2005, 08:21 AM	#3
rogue Bonkers status: Clonked Super Moderator Member#: 7977 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Sterling, VA Vehicle: 100% Abuse	hard drive and ethernet! hello, next modded box!

08-17-2005, 09:38 AM	#4
Stickee NASIOC Supporter Member#: 530 Join Date: Nov 1999 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: I wonder how long you could ma Vehicle: 2005 9-2x Aero FastAr Red	Man, that kinda sucks. $399 US is gonna be like close to $500 CDN, plus I need to buy a game, I'm looking at over $600.

08-17-2005, 09:46 AM	#5
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 2012 STI, '02 WRX '91 MR2, '05 Speed Triple	Well, get the cheaper one then. You can always upgrade later. Most people will buy two controllers, so if you're going to do that you can get the cheap package, buy a wireless controller, and still save $60+. I'm guessing the HDD and remote will only really be useful if you're going to use the 360 as a media server of some sort, and you can always buy them later if you want to.

08-17-2005, 09:47 AM	#6
F22-Raptor Scooby Specialist Member#: 18311 Join Date: May 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Austin Tx Vehicle: 2010 STi SE OBP	299 is what the PS2 started at.. Not that expensive really. Besides the PS3 is going to be much more

08-17-2005, 09:51 AM	#8
jefmcc Scooby Newbie Member#: 42303 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: New Haven, Connecticut Vehicle: 2004 WRX Rally Blue	Way to split your customer base MS.

08-17-2005, 09:59 AM	#10
RaceCarRiot Scooby Specialist Member#: 6542 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Vehicle: 1997 Ver IV silver	so...i take it the HD isn't neccessary for games?

08-17-2005, 10:01 AM	#11
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 2012 STI, '02 WRX '91 MR2, '05 Speed Triple	There'll be a standard composite or RF output for the console, and all games will work on standard TVs.

08-17-2005, 10:41 AM	#21
PhatheadWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 16899 Join Date: Mar 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: I keep getting older and Vehicle: they stay the same age	MS screwed up not making a HD standard. The caching system in the original Xbox really sped up game load times. Everyone really should consider the HD version considering emulation game profiles for original games, downloaded content, music storage, and the sheer price of a mem card to save your games. MS really should have made the $299 system with the 20 GB HD and made a larger capicity (40,60) for the $399.

08-17-2005, 10:55 AM	#23
Mud Pig Scooby Newbie Member#: 27611 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Your Mom's box. Vehicle: 2007 FJ Cruiser R.I.P. Mitsubishi Evo	$399 isn't much for something that entertains you. I bought a DVD player 4 years ago that costs that much. Suck it up.

08-17-2005, 11:20 AM	#25
Attila_Tha_Hun Scooby Newbie Member#: 32096 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Bush Country Vehicle: 1991 Ferrari F40 1/18 scale	20 gig? Pfff. Definately getting the $299 version and holding out for an actual hard drive.