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Old 08-17-2005, 12:07 PM   #1
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Default Win XP Home over Win 2k Pro

Buddy of mine picked up a computer from the school he works for for next to nothing. Problem is that it's wysiwyg, and it's got w2k Pro installed and he has no idea, nor can he found out, the password to get into the stupid thing. Can he install XP Home over Win2k and not demolish the other apps that are already on the machine? His goal, as would anyone's be, is to spend as little as possible since he's only out a tiny amount to start with.

If XP home won't work, and short of buying 2kPro, what're his options, if anything?
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:12 PM   #2
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You can't go from 2kpro to xp home. He'll need XP Pro if he wants to upgrade without a fresh install.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:14 PM   #3
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Oh...and I'm pretty sure the school should have wiped out the hard drive. I doubt they were running off the shelf copies of all the software on it, and therefore they aren't his licensed software, despite him paying for the computer.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:15 PM   #4
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Well, I'm sure that the school should have wiped it, too, but this is the wild west my friend, and it's rare for much of anything to happen the way it should.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:17 PM   #5
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Do a search online for Change NT Password, it makes a bootable CD that is useful for locked out machines.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:19 PM   #6
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Do a search online for Change NT Password, it makes a bootable CD that is useful for locked out machines.
tis true.

I guess he could just keep it as w2kpro if he wanted. Should run most of what he wants, and even a lot of games.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:20 PM   #7
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make a password floppy and crack it- then exploit the teacher that was having sex with the eight year old...
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:44 PM   #8
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did you try a blank password? If the school wiped the hard drive, they may have left it blank.
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:02 PM   #9
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did you try a blank password? If the school wiped the hard drive, they may have left it blank.
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:13 PM   #10
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Oh...and I'm pretty sure the school should have wiped out the hard drive. I doubt they were running off the shelf copies of all the software on it, and therefore they aren't his licensed software, despite him paying for the computer.
What's interesting though is that if it was OEM Windows 2000, it's license is bound to the hardware so by wiping the drive they would just be throwing the license away (more or less).


I was checking our our asset managment company's website the other day and they resell some older PCs. One lot had all of the CD-key removed from the cases at the request of the customer. Why would they do that?
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Beethoven,

Yeah I agree...just figured with a school they would be using a School Agreement, which is 100 times cheaper than buying the machine with OEM OS.
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:24 PM   #12
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http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/

reset any SAM password for 2k or XP... learn it, use it, love it
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:35 PM   #13
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I like the idea of resetting the passowrd from a floppy. There is no point in trying to upgrade becuse if i am not mistaken you need the password to upgrade. The comment about "if its wiped they should have left the password blank" Is not a very smart one due to the fact that they dont wipe the apps off the computer they wipe the whole hard drive (format).

Its easy to crack, and unless the school is using a site lisence you do have the right to win2k.

You could always download win2k3 =D or VISTA BETA!!!!one!!!11. But if you install any new operating system with upgrading (for which you need the pass) you will loose everything on there. Whats on there that you want so bad any way?......
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:37 PM   #14
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logoguy,

You can't upgrade from w2kpro to XP home...

which was his question.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:49 PM   #15
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Yeah I agree...just figured with a school they would be using a School Agreement, which is 100 times cheaper than buying the machine with OEM OS.
When we were operating under a campus agreement, it was nearly impossible to find new PCs without a license so we ended up purchasing OEM's with the equipment anyway. The upgrades were dirt cheap though.
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Old 08-17-2005, 03:04 PM   #16
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First, logoguy- it's not my PC. It's a buddy's. As for what's on it, it's probably got Office x.x and some other stuff that he doesn't want to get rid of. If it's easy enough to get into it, it's worth finding out. I can virtually guarantee that they didn't wipe the drives; I'd be amazed if they did, at least.

The whole site license issue is between my friend and the school, or more aptly, the school and MS.

beethoven, when we get new PC's we always get them with an OS and then use site licenses for pretty much everything else. The server I just got, though, didn't force me to buy any software at all up front. I wish they'd do the same for desktops and notebooks on a wide basis, but what can you do other than work within what they give us?
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Ive never seen so many people worried about a Win2k license.
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