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Old 08-17-2005, 07:22 PM   #1
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Kinda intresting.

http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15637

I'd actually like to see a pro drifter handle a wagon.


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Old 08-17-2005, 07:35 PM   #2
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That isn't a BG5.... looks like a BG6 to me...... anyways that is cool. Just wish he would have done it the right way buy buying the front locking kit instead of welding it. I can Understnad the rear end giving out either way though.
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Old 08-17-2005, 07:59 PM   #3
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Whats a BG6?

The guy also doesnt have a torsen rear end and that rear end as RR said wasnt designed to handle the full engine power but a cool attempt nonetheless.

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Old 08-17-2005, 08:19 PM   #4
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an OUtback wagon
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:33 AM   #5
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I'm thinking about getting a kit and doing this to my Sedan, but I'm gonna put in a rear LSD and stregnthen everything so I don't blow anything up.
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:51 AM   #6
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it is such a sweet idea. I really admire this guy for trying something new...
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:21 AM   #7
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:54 AM   #8
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I'm thinking about getting a kit and doing this to my Sedan, but I'm gonna put in a rear LSD and stregnthen everything so I don't blow anything up.

I think a rear LSD(depending on the type) would make it more prone to breakage unless you upgrade the gears at the same time.

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Old 08-18-2005, 03:57 AM   #9
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including bearing to turn your AWD Subaru into a RWD in a couple hours.
This simple replacement is perfect for those who need RWD for Dyno
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I dont know if youre better off with two less tires for drag racing.

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Old 08-18-2005, 05:38 AM   #10
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I think a rear LSD(depending on the type) would make it more prone to breakage unless you upgrade the gears at the same time.

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Um, an LSD would be a completely new rear diff, so yeah, it would be stronger than stock. If you leave the rear diff open, it just means you'll be more prone to burning out peg leg style. LSD would be a better option, if everything else is strong enough to hold up the power.

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I dont know if youre better off with two less tires for drag racing.
There are lots of rwd cars pushing 800+ hp to the rear wheels that, at the drag strip, can launch a hell of a lot harder using drag slicks, than most AWD platforms make. AWD is awesome for launching, but once you're going 50 mph, the AWD with it's 3 differentials will start to show your losses. You might get 4 or 5 car legnths on a FWD car, but after they hit 4th gear, you're toast (I've seen vids of a modded STi and modded SRT4 going at it; The STi gets the jump off the line, then the SRT4 spanks him in 3rd and 4th gears).
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Um, an LSD would be a completely new rear diff, so yeah, it would be stronger than stock. If you leave the rear diff open, it just means you'll be more prone to burning out peg leg style. LSD would be a better option, if everything else is strong enough to hold up the power.



There are lots of rwd cars pushing 800+ hp to the rear wheels that, at the drag strip, can launch a hell of a lot harder using drag slicks, than most AWD platforms make. AWD is awesome for launching, but once you're going 50 mph, the AWD with it's 3 differentials will start to show your losses. You might get 4 or 5 car legnths on a FWD car, but after they hit 4th gear, you're toast (I've seen vids of a modded STi and modded SRT4 going at it; The STi gets the jump off the line, then the SRT4 spanks him in 3rd and 4th gears).
Most off the Subaru rear diffs with LSD are basically the same gears as the non-LSD with a couple of friction plates added. I dont think they are particularly stronger gears. Maybe someone else can enlighten me on this. And the LSD places more strain on the gears soooooo all things being equal LSD would explode sooner.

If you limit the hp of the 2 cars, a 2wd car might(depending on a lot of variables) overtake an AWD car in the 1/4". In your example you are introducing way to many variables to be able to know. Weight, gearing etc. AWD in a typical street car is a big advantage on the launch.

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Most off the Subaru rear diffs with LSD are basically the same gears as the non-LSD with a couple of friction plates added. I dont think they are particularly stronger gears. Maybe someone else can enlighten me on this. And the LSD places more strain on the gears soooooo all things being equal LSD would explode sooner.

If you limit the hp of the 2 cars, a 2wd car might(depending on a lot of variables) overtake an AWD car in the 1/4". In your example you are introducing way to many variables to be able to know. Weight, gearing etc. AWD in a typical street car is a big advantage on the launch.

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You're correct; the LSD repalces some of the components, but it's still a small R160 not meant for that kind of abuse. It's the R&P that can't handle it. Upgrading to an R180 would be the way to go.


And I love seeing RWD Legacies



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Old 08-18-2005, 02:39 PM   #13
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Anyhow,

I'd love to see a legacy BG or a Nissan Stegea Wagon in a drift comp. Imagine it on the bank at Irwindale! Sickness!

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Me2, just worry about that rear chunk. Put in an R180 out of an SVX and some really thin rear tires. Smoke screens on demand.

That looks like it was a lot of fun while it lasted.

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