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Old 08-18-2005, 01:06 PM   #1
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Default USDM Legacy with Bilsteins???

Does anyone know for certain if or when we will be getting a USDM Legacy with the Bilsteins?

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Old 08-18-2005, 01:39 PM   #2
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I have heard October.
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:41 PM   #3
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I have heard October.
Any press releases or just rumor mill so far?

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Old 08-18-2005, 04:29 PM   #4
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:04 PM   #5
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They will be making 500 spec b for the US market later this year, and I believe they come with the yellow bilsteins (but not the jdm spec b version) That sthe news on legacygt.com anyhow
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:06 PM   #6
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You mean the Spec Bs don't even get the Spec Bs? That's weak. They should call it Spec B Lite.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:07 PM   #7
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:11 PM   #8
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You mean the Spec Bs don't even get the Spec Bs? That's weak. They should call it Spec B Lite.
Why is it weak? The Spec B elsewhere in the world is simply a suspension upgrade. That is what it will be here. My complaint is having to pay a couple grand for audio controls on the steering wheel.

When the wagon comes I will buy it.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:49 PM   #9
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meh.....those rims are going to be a pain to clean.

Hhhmmmm, 500 units....there should be some premium for standing in THAT line.

oh, and the color interior......okay if its your cup of tea.

Peeps can upgrade their suspension and get Spec B rims with better tires....and not have to stand in line or pay bigger premiums. Sure that doesn't include frosting...but its just that: frosting. I'm not big on sugar.

Each their own.

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Old 08-18-2005, 08:09 PM   #10
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meh.....those rims are going to be a pain to clean.

Hhhmmmm, 500 units....there should be some premium for standing in THAT line.

oh, and the color interior......okay if its your cup of tea.

Peeps can upgrade their suspension and get Spec B rims with better tires....and not have to stand in line or pay bigger premiums. Sure that doesn't include frosting...but its just that: frosting. I'm not big on sugar.

Each their own.

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I gotta agree. I already have the Bilsteins in the garage and the rims and leather are pretty cool but IMO not worth price of admission and Katzkin can put together some nice leather color combos for less.

What sucks is the drop of the manual from the wagon moving forward.

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Old 08-18-2005, 08:11 PM   #11
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Why is it weak? The Spec B elsewhere in the world is simply a suspension upgrade. That is what it will be here. My complaint is having to pay a couple grand for audio controls on the steering wheel.

When the wagon comes I will buy it.
Yea in the JDM going form the GT to GT-B for instance is a spring change only IIRC. The GTs have the Bilsteins too. Thats the setup I have.

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Old 08-18-2005, 08:17 PM   #12
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What sucks is the drop of the manual from the wagon moving forward.

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*wince* ooooo, that does suck.

....that may hurt some sales.

May. *shrugs*

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Old 08-18-2005, 08:24 PM   #13
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Yea in the JDM going form the GT to GT-B for instance is a spring change only IIRC. The GTs have the Bilsteins too. Thats the setup I have.

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You've got it backwards, SS. The difference is a strut change. They are both Bilsteins, but the Spec Bs are more performance oriented.

I'm disappointed because the US Spec B is just a hodge-podge of JDM add ons. Spec B rims and tires, GT struts and springs, navi and odd looking leather seats and, voila, the USDM version of the Spec B. It's like Subaru of America consulted jdmpartstx.com to build the US version. There's just nothing special about it, not even a Spec B front end.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:26 AM   #14
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You've got it backwards, SS. The difference is a strut change. They are both Bilsteins, but the Spec Bs are more performance oriented.
So its different struts and springs or just different struts on JDM GT vs GT-B?

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Old 08-19-2005, 12:50 AM   #15
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So its different struts and springs or just different struts on JDM GT vs GT-B?

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SC, I got it sorted again.

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Latest information from Mr kazuhide Sato, Bilstein Japan

"Subaru set up two specification only with a different setting for
Bilstein OEM.
One is for 17 inch tyre and the other is for 18 inch tyre.

In Japan setting for 17 inch tyre seems to be more accepted to end
useres than that for 18 inch tyre because it is more comfort (less
sporty).
This is for your information. However it depends on your taste.

Best regards,
So there are 2 sets of Bilsteins, 17 or 18" setups and about 7 different sets of springs to go along with them.

From my thread on LegacyGT:

4 wagon models with Bilsteins
3.0R
3.0R ADA
2.0GT
2.0GT spec. B

And for the B4s(sedans) theyre on three models:
3.0R
2.0GT
2.0GT spec. B


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Old 08-19-2005, 01:37 AM   #16
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*wince* ooooo, that does suck.

....that may hurt some sales.

May. *shrugs*

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For the most part, it probably won't.

Most drivers are not enthusiasts, and rather have am auto.

Only about 17% in the U.S. drive standard tranny's according to this old article. I think new car sales, only 7% account are manual.

Here is in interesting article about this fact.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl..._1/ai_74302694
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:12 AM   #17
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And for those that have gotten the manual 05 LGT wagon, that will help it hold its value (I Hope). I think you will still be able to get the LGT Limited Wagons with the manual, I may be wrong though.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:14 AM   #18
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And for those that have gotten the manual 05 LGT wagon, that will help it hold its value (I Hope). I think you will still be able to get the LGT Limited Wagons with the manual, I may be wrong though.
Nope - you'll only be able to get the manual in the Outback and I believe the 2.5i wagons (non-limited and special additions only) no GT Wagon in either Limited or Non-Limited garb according to this Edmunds.com link

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/suba...acy/index.html

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