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Old 08-18-2005, 01:21 PM   #1
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Default SSR Competitions vs. Comp-H hybrids?

looking at getting some SSR Competition wheels.....

looking at 18's and 19's... i want a big wheel for carshow 'look' but as well lightweight and sturdy for some road driving/performance.

I've tried to read up a wee bit about the competitions and the comp-H's...

i see the difference is that the H is a 'hybrid' two piece design... advertised as 50% stronger and 9% harder.

My question is this.... does SSR mean its 50% stronger and 9% harder than standard semi-solid forged wheels it makes, like the SSR Competition.

or is the Hybrid type weaker than the standard competition wheel and they mean its only 50% stronger and 9% harder than normally Cast wheels?

i assume and think they mean to say the Comp-H's are 50% stronger and 9% harder than the standard 1piece semisolid forged wheels they make, such as the Competition.

18x8's Competition said to weigh in at 14.6lbs each.
19x8 Comp-H hybrid said to weigh in at 19lbs each and are certainly considerably more expensive.... thus leading me to assume they are stronger, obviously at the expensive of a little more weight.... of course i'm not comparing exact same wheel sizes here.... but still.

can anyone clarify for sure? thanks.

right now i'm running chrome 19x9 wheels that tip the scales at near 29lbs each--- which sucks and sure they look second to none (IMO of course )..... but i am trying to go a more 'performance' route lately whilst still holding onto the killer look of a 19inch wheel.

thanks for any input.........
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:56 PM   #2
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SSR Comp-H 50% stronger, 9% harder than SSR Competition.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:25 AM   #3
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Default ...thanks

are you hazarding an educated guess as i am?


i think its pretty clear that is the case... just wanted to double-verify it before shelling out almost $600 bones per wheel........

kinda steep... for not too much more you could grap some BBS's.... but i like the look of the Comp-H's better, and i can't seem to find BBS's in a 19' that fits the suby.... besides the 18' BBS's are another $336 for the set... so saving money with the comp-h's and getting a bigger wheel at only 1lb heavier...

at 50% stronger than the already semi forged Competitions... that should be one pretty strong wheel, eh?
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:48 AM   #4
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at 50% stronger than the already semi forged Competitions... that should be one pretty strong wheel, eh?
eh, I didn't think the SSR Comps were known for being strong. I know in the BMW community, people would end up with bent wheels just from doing track days with them.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:06 AM   #5
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eh, I didn't think the SSR Comps were known for being strong. I know in the BMW community, people would end up with bent wheels just from doing track days with them.

....any wheel will bend/break with abuse.....and very likely, the bmw pilots went off track and bent them......also, a bent wheel is a FAR better thing at speed than a shattered one....which is what the SSR did.....saved the drivers ass.

My straight and true SSR Comps have 60k on 'em....street miles, I don't drive like grandma....but I DO keep at least 35psi in my NON-rubberband tires which helps, I'm sure.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:13 PM   #6
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Default scotty....

What size are you considering non-rubberband size?

right now i'm running 225/35 so i think thats a sidewall of 78.75mm...... Rubberbands if i've ever seen them....

that's with cheapsheet chrome cast alum wheels (Excel brand) driven all over the pothole'd streets of N.E. Ohio..... no too long ago lowered with rediculously stiff coilovers, have hit some nasty bumps with them that i thought for sure should flatten a tire.... and didn't even bend a rim (or so i don't think so far)...... but anyways i'm getting rid of this absurdly stiff suspension i think...

The Comp-H's 19x8 would get the same tire size in all likelihood 225/35/19.... or do think i can fit a 225/40/19 in there.... that adds another half inch to side wall.... at stock ride height i had no probs with the 225/35's and matter of fact i could easily fit a 3 finger width in there... tons of room for lowering... now i lowered it significantly and i could raise it back up if i got 40's....

think its worth it to get 40's.... just not sure. i do also always ride about 34-35lbs pressure as well.........

oh well... gonna try em i think... hope its not a mistake... last i saw SSR is not currently producing wheels... so if i do F one up... i could be hard pressed to find the $600 counterpart replacement... ouch that would suck... probably should by 5 just in case.... . but who wants to shell out $600 for a wheel you may not use.

well i know a guy who bent a BBS STi wheel just curbing not very hard either..... lets face it kids.............. wheels bend. especially lightweight performance wheels on tires with less than 'standard- every day' sized tires.....

The purpose of these forged and semi-forged wheels is not to make them ultra strong and super-stronger than stock cast alum wheels... its to make them same size or bigger than cast alum wheels and same or similar strength, all the while reducing their overall weight.

ok now how bout a whole other animal... Yokahama Parada 2's for $188/tire or cheapo the whole way with Dunlops at $135/tire....... something tells me i should not be cheapo'ing on tires.... especially after sparing almost no expense on wheels.......... parada 2's seem like a good middle of the roader in that category....... does the old adage hold true with tires as well? 'YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR' i've been very happy with these Falken Azenis, not happy with Pirelli P7000's.... and didn't have the Continental Conti-Extremes long enough to decide if they were any good or not--------- remember i'm not doing anything but some street driving, (agressive at times of course )... so i'm really looking for a 'pretty' tread pattern tire with half-way decent wear characteristics, less the ultra-$$$ high category. thanks in advance for any opinions.............

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Old 08-19-2005, 11:26 PM   #7
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....d00d....i'd forget about 19's and that's that.
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:22 AM   #8
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either way really... there is no way i will forget about 19's... sorry... but IMHO they simply look perfect on a WRX... yes an 18 or even maybe 17 wheel is more 'economincal' and performance 'oriented' the subaru WRX has an absurdly HUGE wheel well... a 19 inch wheel barely fills approprietly, again in terms of the look i prefer on a car, and not in any other terms.

but don't overlook... i'm talking about a car used more for local auto shows and summer driving only..... i own it to A. go a little bit fast here and there, B. to have a great looking tuner car. i realize this is not the concern of most of you nutjobs on this site... hA!!! JK everyone-- you're very dedicated, which is great.... as well am i.... just in different form from some of you.

i know everybody and their brother may not be able to stand that about a lot of people, but oh well....... to each his own, my own is 19's.... i'm just trying to gather much info as possible before switching to a more 'quality' 19 inch wheel as opposed to a more 'off the hOOk' looking 19 inch wheel.

so if your opinion is "dude don't waste big money on a 19 inch because you'll probably just end up bending it or ruining it with those 'rubberband' tires' driving around crap-roads OHIO", then just say so.

otherwise..... thanks for the input, i'm still not quite decided about the whole thing, and that's that

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Old 08-20-2005, 12:37 AM   #9
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:53 PM   #10
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Default well...

that term doesn't really bother me much... if that's what you wish to deam me...... guy at work here (good friend actually as well) has a 90's camaro all done up far as power and 'up-keep' is concerned... he calls me (and anyone else who owns a wrx) a ricer too, all in good fun of course. i don't mind it, i'm not to proud to admit it, if it is indeed true. but i ask what truly defines a ricer? i mean come on, not like my car is slow... but that's relative of course.. honestly though, if 300AWHP and 1/4's in the high 12's is not good enough to make me non-rice... then fine, rice i am. but just because my car looks show-quality, i don't think makes me a ricer unless it looks like it should be fast but is not. most certainly the exterior and interior are not stock, nor are the power mods.

anyways.... digging to much into this... just gets me sometimes why i'm a 'ricer' because my car with 300whp is well kept and has ground effects and shiny intercooler pipes, but someone elses same hp but more stock looking is not? fact of life i suppose.

now if being a ricer is someone who enjoys car shows more than drag racing, irrespective of a fast car.......... then ricer i am, and proud i am to wear the title.

just my .02 kids. hate all ya like.

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SSR wheels are a great choice.
You get great looks and the performance of a very light wheel.
They are much better than your current 29lb wheels.
With those big ass wheels just add some big ass brakes 14"+ to fill them up.
Nobody can call that rice.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:41 PM   #12
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To each his own but I'm 100% in agreement with uncle Scotty. Forget the 19s and go SSR Comp all the way no matter what size. There are plenty of great reviews on those wheels and they look fantastic. I love mine.

As for the BBK, I agree with Lunarx, my SSR 17s cry out for bigger brakes. The stickers seem so small behind those spokes.

Tire Rack has SSRs on sale right now too.

Oh, and I didn't detect any hate coming from Uncle Scotty (I assume that is who you directed your comments to). I won't get into the whole ricer thing, suffice it to say that I just don't get how putting giant oversized wheels on a car and "Show" belong in the same arena. If you like it, great! Show Car? Nothing I want to see. Show me function over form any day. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

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true of course... never sait uncle scotty was 'hating'.... just voicing my opinion about the whole matter is all. no offense intended and certainly none taken for anyone's comments.

i disagree that 19's for the wrx are 'big oversize wheels' rather i think they're perfect for the wheel-well size. course 17's are the ultimate in function..... and at 12lbs per wheel, they're the ulitmiate ULTIMATE in function with the SSR's.

Many car show enthusiasts (ie consumers of car shows) attend the car show not only to see function, but form as well. A delicate balance of both draws the crowd (as well as wins some awards). if that weren't true.... one could drive any clunked up hunk of junk into the car show and win long as it went fast and corned well. But i certainly would not hesitate to trade out my 19 inch chrome wheels for 19inch SSR's, any day of the week, cost the simple issue here, and the only reason i haven't bought them yet. ($$ right now i'm working on my suspension issues, function needed here.. whiteline g4's it is!)
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....My straight and true SSR Comps have 60k on 'em....street miles, I don't drive like grandma....but I DO keep at least 35psi in my NON-rubberband tires which helps, I'm sure.
Do you keep 35psi in all four?
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....usually 40-41F/38-39R
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