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Old 08-18-2005, 07:22 PM   #1
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Default Falken rt-615 tire availability

I emailed Falken about their RT-615 215/45/16's. And DAMN! They said they wouldnt be available until January 2006! I'm not sure if this is old news but I am sure that it sucks. I remember when they said all the tires that are available now were to come out in Jan. 05 but ended up coming out in like April.

I am liking this tire a little more right now over the 225/45/16 Hankook RS-2 because its supposed to be just as wide and it shorter for mo-betta gearing.
Have you guys read the latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports? What do you think of the street tire test results?
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:07 PM   #2
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if they're gonna make it in the size that you need I say go for it (prolly worth the wait). Jeff, Geoff, Alec, Garrett,... they're all pretty fast on them I'd say. After gettting worked over so significantly badly at the last event I was contemplating the idea of ditching my brand new Yokes for the 615... (after I "camled down" some I decided that that was silly, but, if I needed new tires, they'd be the ones).
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:44 PM   #3
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hankook makes that tire in a 215/45-16.
falken really left the 16" people behind with the new tire.
i do not feel i'm giving up any grip. not even looking at other tires. the 'kooks are good.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:47 PM   #4
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the 225/45/16 Hankook is the same width as the 215/45/16 Falken. Whether the data that Hankook and Falken list on their website is 100% accurate or not is beyond me, but I still don't believe the RT615 is tenths ahead of the other ST tires.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:49 PM   #5
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I do not feel i'm giving up any grip. not even looking at other tires. the 'kooks are good.
i thought you were running the 615's on your new 17's. No? my bad
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:49 PM   #6
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nope. 'KOOKS!!
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:51 PM   #7
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A couple of the top STS civics drivers that ran the Hankook earlier in th year have switched back to both the 215 and 615 Azenis. The RS2 Z212 is a good tire, but the Azenis seem to have an advantage.

The Hankook is the best bang for the buck imo.

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Old 08-18-2005, 11:59 PM   #8
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A couple of the top STS civics drivers that ran the Hankook earlier in th year have switched back to both the 215 and 615 Azenis. The RS2 Z212 is a good tire, but the Azenis seem to have an advantage.

The Hankook is the best bang for the buck imo.

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I agree. You cant beat those prices.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:46 AM   #9
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Are the 615s slated to come out in a 225/50/16? Ive seen a few places that says they will eventually, but nothing seems positive.
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www.vulcantire.com seems to be a good and reliable source for info and pricing
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:22 AM   #11
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^^^

That doesn't say anything about a 225/50/16 but if you go to the Falken site. They show one is scheduled TBA.

check out this link

http://www.falkentire.com/615micro.htm
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:41 AM   #12
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A couple of the top STS civics drivers that ran the Hankook earlier in th year have switched back to both the 215 and 615 Azenis. The RS2 Z212 is a good tire, but the Azenis seem to have an advantage.
I doubt the Azenis are really a better tire. I think they switched back to the Azenis because nobody wanted to spend the season changing things on the car to get it how it was on the Azenis.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:12 AM   #13
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I doubt the Azenis are really a better tire. I think they switched back to the Azenis because nobody wanted to spend the season changing things on the car to get it how it was on the Azenis.
Grassroots motorsports recently tested (as autocross tires) the new 615, the 215, Advan , MX's and Hancook, and they placed in that order (I'm pretty sure thats the order)
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:36 AM   #14
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I doubt the Azenis are really a better tire. I think they switched back to the Azenis because nobody wanted to spend the season changing things on the car to get it how it was on the Azenis.
No...they switched back to the Azenis because they were faster. I'm referring to top national level STS Civic drivers who show up at events with 3 or 4 sets of tires. And fully understand the changes needed to maximize each tires performance.

When it comes down to Nationals, they will be on the best performing tire, and if the Kook is a few tenths off, that could be the difference between 1st or 8th. Especially in STS.

I think even Corey has switched from Kooks on his RS.
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That doesn't say anything about a 225/50/16 but if you go to the Falken site. They show one is scheduled TBA.
I've heard Nov/Dec of this year for the 225/50 16s but that was 2nd hand (at best) information.
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i've always loved the falkens. when I drove adam's wagon on the kooks it felt great untill the 3rd run. It seemed like they were a great cold tire, once we got them hot they wouldnt cool, and my times shot up a second each run. Jeff and Adam do great on them, but they dont dual drive them. I wasnt jazzed about the new flaken, I like my skinnies, but I still want the 235/40 /17's. They just arnt out yet.
Doug, I have rt-215's that would work great on you rig. They'll be waiting for you next season.
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www.vulcantire.com seems to be a good and reliable source for info and pricing
That website said the 215/45/16 would be out 3rd quarter '05. Should be right now right? Wrong. Due out next January.
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I doubt the Azenis are really a better tire. I think they switched back to the Azenis because nobody wanted to spend the season changing things on the car to get it how it was on the Azenis.
I reccomend everyone to pick up the latest Grassroots Motorsports mag. Read the street tire shootout. It would be interesting to hear everyone's input on the article. By the numbers, for whatever its worth, (you be the judge) the RT-615 were about half a second faster on a 43 second course.
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they watered certain tires that they knew needed it. it was still not known that the 'kooks needed to be cooled. i do not look at this test as "the gospel"
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they watered certain tires that they knew needed it. it was still not known that the 'kooks needed to be cooled. i do not look at this test as "the gospel"
amen.

draken - all the posts i read on sccaforums mentioned that the civics understeered more with the hankooks, and that they didn't want to waste their time changing everything on the car to get the most out of them.
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......latest Grassroots Motorsports mag. Read the street tire shootout. It would be interesting to hear everyone's input on the article..
there's good reading on this topic at sccaforums.com and some good stuff here in the motorsports section. I thought the article was a little "thin" ... a good experiment and worth reading but I'd combine some of the documented first hand experiences from above with what was in the article to get a better understanding.
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