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Old 08-19-2005, 12:50 PM   #1
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Default Directional Tires vs. Non-Directional Tires?

I had a set of Bridgstones wtih about 17,000 miles on them I got a nail in one that turned out to be unrepairable according to a Firestone shop. I had the tire replaced with a Firestone tire. (Firehawk wideoval). I drove another 3,000 miles and went to the Subaru dealership to have some scheduled maintenance done, they told me that the tire shop put the wrong kind of tire for my all wheel drive car. It was making one of the other tires wear out much faster than ther rest. They mentioned that it was a directional tire or something.
Basically I have three good tires, one is the replacement (Firestone), the other two are the Bridgestones. The last tire is a Bridgestone that is not lookin' good.
Any Advice!?! ...I'm a newbie.

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Old 08-19-2005, 12:52 PM   #2
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My advice is to replace all of your tires with new ones, all the same brand/model/make. With AWD it isn't the best idea to have mismatched tires on the car. This can cause added wear on the other tires as well as other components on the car such as the tranny.

Check out tirerack.com for some suggestions. I just ordered my winter tires (directional) from them and they were mounted yesterday.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:03 PM   #3
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I wanted to see if anyone thought that the Firestone shop was neglegent in putting on that kind of tire. I'll check out 'tire rack'. Thanks!
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:17 PM   #4
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I'd say they were negligent if they didn't recommend/sell you a tire that was not the same diameter as the other three(minus wear). Different sizes can casue problems with the differential, not necessarily the tranny.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:21 PM   #5
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You could also get a second opinion on repairing the tire. Maybe it is repairable and they either didn't feel like fixing it or didn't have the skill to do so.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:23 PM   #6
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I wanted to see if anyone thought that the Firestone shop was neglegent in putting on that kind of tire. I'll check out 'tire rack'. Thanks!
Yes and no....they should have paid attention to the fact that your car is AWD and replacing just one tire is not a good idea but then again they probably thought you wanted to spend very little money or needed the business or whatever.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:30 PM   #7
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WWW.TIRERACK.COM Don't settle for less, you have to have the same tires on your ride for max performance and safety
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:30 PM   #8
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I agree with conker69, definetely want to replace them all at once.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:49 PM   #9
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This has nothing to do with directional tires or one tire wearing out faster than the other 3.. that's all a load of malarky.

You shouldn't have different tires on the same axle on any vehicle unless you drive a circle-track race car.

With AWD it's important to keep the tire diameters as close together as possible.

Omnidirectional, directional, asymmetric tires (in other words, all kinds of normal passenger car tires) can be fitted to an AWD system. That has nothing to do with anything.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:29 PM   #10
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One of my RE070's had at least two punctures I knew of. I took it to one place that did at least take it off the rim and look at it before telling me they couldn't repair it because it had two punctures less than two inches apart.

To other places I took it didn't even want to give me the time of day...a Goodyear guy barely even walked out to my vehicle to look at it. I already had the wheel off and was carrying it around in my wife's SUV.

Recent liability problems, especially after the Firestone/Ford Explorer fiasco has caused almost all of the major tire shops to stop repairing punctures. Apparently if water leaks past the repair, it can rust the steel belts, causing the tire to come apart.

I've just stopped asking, as they all just come up with some excuse why they can't repair it or try to sell you a new tire.

I use the basic plug repair kit you can buy at Wal-Mart for about $10. It's worked fine. I've run with plugs I put in for tens-of-thousands of miles with no problems. I currently have three plugs in two different RE070's. My wife's SUV tires (I recently replaced them after the OEM Bridgestones got 60k miles on them. I had at least a dozen plugs in those tires.

I know, I know, I live the in the God Damn flat tire capital of the world! It's ridiculous. My wife's had the new tires on for less than a month and already has two punctures. But I have road hazard on all of those since I bought them and they didn't come with the car.

But the plugs work well and any mom and pop shop that will still repair punctures uses them.

I've put in at least two plugs that were less than an inch from the sidewall. The risk is that heat from the sidewalls could cause the plug to soften and leak or pop out. I wouldn't recommend AutoXing with them, but they are fine for daily spirited driving.

The last one I stuck in my RE070 took me less than 10 minute to pull the wheel, find the puncture, plug it, and re-install the wheel. It's worth it.

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My front tires are worn down because of an alignment issue I need to have fixed, they need to be replaced. Can I just replace the front tires with directionals?
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:17 AM   #12
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^^If you have an AWD car, not unless the rear tires are almost new or you have the new tires shaved down to match the rears.

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But the plugs work well and any mom and pop shop that will still repair punctures uses them.
Yes they work, but for maximum safety the tire really should be taken off the rim and a patch added to the inside as well.
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:04 PM   #13
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My front tires are worn down because of an alignment issue I need to have fixed, they need to be replaced. Can I just replace the front tires with directionals?
What car?
Directionals or not all tires are supposed to be with 1/4 of an inch in circumference (not diameter) - if you have AWD Subaru (check user's manual).

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Old 11-27-2009, 06:53 PM   #14
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What car?
Directionals or not all tires are supposed to be with 1/4 of an inch in circumference (not diameter) - if you have AWD Subaru (check user's manual).

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:20 PM   #15
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How many miles on originals?
You may need to buy a set of four.

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:51 PM   #16
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I think about 45k, back tires look pretty good.
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:20 PM   #17
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I would buy a full set of four when the other pair has 45K.

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Old 11-28-2009, 09:35 PM   #18
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always replace in sets of two (2) minimum on an AWD & on the same axle (so front pair or rear pair.)

Assess the wear on the other 2, if the diam of the other axle is more than 1/4" wear difference to the new tires, you should replace all 4.

Short of a full blow out or a puncture to a sidewall, I have yet to see a tread-cap located puncture that was not repairable, unless the tread depth is well beyond the safe wear level.
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Thanks guys I just replaced with conti extreme contact dws from tirerack, was able to do a local pickup.
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