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Old 08-21-2005, 05:32 PM   #1
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Default Improved feeling with lighter wheels and tires...

Not sure if anyone else agrees with me on this, but my car feels lighter and easier to maneuver with stock rims/tires compared to 17" P1 with RE070's. I believe there is about 40lbs difference between two setup in terms of weight, so it probably makes sense. I also have Perrin RSB with whiteline endlinks.

Does anyone else feels the same way? that 10lbs/corner difference really makes a huge difference in steering feeling IMO...
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:01 PM   #2
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:09 PM   #3
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.....indubitably....
indubitably - Too apparent to be doubted; unquestionable.
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:47 PM   #4
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:37 PM   #5
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Yeah, it makes a big difference. I don't feel as much difference in steering weight, but my car feels like I'm dragging a boat anchor or running with the A/C on all the time when I switch from my super light summer SSR's back to the stock wheels with snow tires for winter. It's probably less than 10 lbs per corner difference, but the difference in acceleration feel is night and day.
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:10 PM   #6
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Unsprung weight is the enemy of steering feel.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:56 PM   #7
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:09 PM   #8
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I agree too. My 17X7.5s are 31lbs WITH tires. The feel is more readily apparent than when I reflashed to a Cobb Stage1. I will never put heavy wheels or tires on my car.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:42 PM   #9
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31lbs? it's even lighter than OEM 16" setup. What kind of setup do you have?
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....must have meant 41 pounds....my 17x7.5 SSR's with 225/45 Kumho MX's weighed 35 pounds and THAT is LIGHT.
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:23 PM   #11
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No, I meant 31 lbs.

SSR Comp 17X7.5 = 13lbs
General Exclaim UHP 215/45/17 = 18lbs
I weighed them separately and mounted together just to be sure. It's 31lbs. The difference is phenominal. I'd take this combo over a Stage 1 reflash any day. It's that big.

As for the Generals (flame suit on), it's too early to give a through review. I'm taking it easy for the first 500 miles like TireRack says but I have had an emergency stop in the rain and I stopped faster on wet than the RE92s did on dry...much faster it seemed but I was worried about getting T-boned so, well...

I've also taken a corner or two fairly hard (cause I love my car and 500 miles is taking forever so it just happens sometimes) and stuck without squeeling when the RE92 would have done neither. I've yet to really press them but they seem clearly superior to my old tires in every way.

After 24,000 miles, the OEM setup weighed 36lbs. I think they are supposed to be 37.5 new (16.5lb wheels + 21lb tires) but don't know for sure. Regardless, the 5lbs/corner I saved going from old RE92s to this new setup was huge. The car handles better, launches more responsively, brakes better, sticks better and I haven't even messed with the tire pressure yet.

I'm quite pleased with the whole setup.
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....w0w HP....that IS light.....18 pound tires

....and I thought the SSR/MX combo I had was light at 35 pounds....but 31

And I had naysayers when I posted that I could tell the difference when I put the heavy ass Falken RT215's on after the MX's....I didn't weigh the Hankooks(no scale available) but they seemed a bit lighter(new) than the Falkens(well worn).

I just rotated the Hankooks(front to back) this morning and forgot to change the pressures....I run 40F/37R.....and noticed it pretty quick.
The wear after ~2300 miles(mixed city/hwy) seems to be pretty good....I'm really liking them
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:15 PM   #13
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And I had naysayers when I posted that I could tell the difference when I put the heavy ass Falken RT215's on after the MX's....I didn't weigh the Hankooks(no scale available) but they seemed a bit lighter(new) than the Falkens(well worn).
I remember that thread, it was part of my inspiration to go light.

Thx for the psi info. I'll start playing tomorrow.
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