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Old 08-21-2005, 09:54 PM   #1
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Has anyone added a HID kit to their legacy? I'm looking into improving my lighting and think HIDs might be the way to go. I see a ton of them on ebay and am just looking for some opinions.

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Old 08-21-2005, 10:01 PM   #2
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Buy Hella Ballasts if possible. 4300k bulbs are about your best bet. You can buy bulbs rebased for your housing, but I'd plan on doing a projector retrofit eventually if I were you. It may require some slight cutting too, depending.

Usually you can buy HID stuff from production cars like BMW, Acura, Audi etc on ebay used. They are generally cheaper than the kits, although used. I think the kits are often made with inferrior products personally. Just search on ebay for "*carmanufacturer* HID" or something.

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Old 08-21-2005, 10:05 PM   #3
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care to help me out on this one offline fibuz?
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Old 08-21-2005, 10:28 PM   #4
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how so?
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Old 08-21-2005, 10:35 PM   #5
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didnt know if we should take this to a PM level or not.
lets keep it here to see where it goes.

now, I'm thinking of trying to find a HID kit for a car with HIDs and maybe putting on eyelids to keep the light down. do you think those would help you? or do you think projectors are your only other alternative
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:25 PM   #6
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I considered eye lids, and I still think they would help a lot, yes...but they wouldn't be perfect.

Projectors have a cleaner light output, though, on the road, and I think you can see farther with them versus just reflectors with HID's.

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Old 08-22-2005, 12:38 PM   #7
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I think projectors would be the ultimate setup too, but you've got to find them. maybe a junkyard? I'd think you could cut a hole in the back of the light housing and put the projector in it and seal it up with some weather tight sealant.

the ones you got weren't H1's were they? I see these kits on ebay that are H1 and the bulb should fit right in.

I'm thinking if the lights need to be angled down so far, then eyelids would help keep the light down so you don't have to angle them down so much.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:20 PM   #8
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The set I came upon were normal D2R/S bulbs, which are based specifically for OEM HID setups. They do come rebased. I installed a rebased H1 set in another car and they fit perfectly, however, after analyzing the bulb opening, I think a slight cut may need to be made for the exterrior insulated wire to fit, but it would be minimal if required at all.

The reflected light going in odd patterns is not a major issue. Our enclosures are designed pretty well even with HIDs. The problem really is that the bulb is so damn bright, that there is an orb of white white white light about an inch in circumfrence around where the bulb is. This may make on-coming drivers think that your brights are on, even if they aren't.

As it is now, with proper aiming, I almost never get flashed.

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Old 08-22-2005, 01:46 PM   #9
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so it sounds like they still are a step up from stockers, even though you have to fiddle with the aiming, right? I've been looking around and the kits are like $250+. I wonder if i could find something similar to what you found somewhere...
heard anything? I'd like so $60 HIDs too
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Old 08-22-2005, 02:09 PM   #10
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well i have an hella kit in my car which im selling now for 150 bucks, the kit is 1 1/2 old and never had a problem. just u lose the high beam which suxs but the light is so much brighter then factory. and if u want them installed i can do that to. also if anyone ones a new kit i have a hook up plz feel free to pm me about the hids.

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Old 08-22-2005, 02:14 PM   #11
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which hella kit do you have? could you get me some info? does the 98GT use H1 blubs for low-beam?
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Personally what I would do is buy the hella or similar ballasts off ebay separetely..something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hella...94879604QQrdZ1

and then just get the rebased to H1 bulbs likes this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-4...spagenameZWDVW

You'll also need their D2 converter plug @ 15 bucks/pair with rebased bulbs.

So this runs about about 300 or a little more, but the positives:

*Hella Ballasts are far superior to other asian-made knockoffs(i've seen many burn out after as little as 2 hours use).
*Almost entirely a 'plug and play' sytem(besides splicing etc).
*No need to drill the headlight enclosure like me (EXCEPT you'll need to drill to get the wires from the HID ballast into the enclosure.)

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Old 08-22-2005, 07:28 PM   #13
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wow, that certainly gives me another angle to attack...
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:02 PM   #14
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Personally what I would do is buy the hella or similar ballasts off ebay separetely..something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hella...94879604QQrdZ1

and then just get the rebased to H1 bulbs likes this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-4...spagenameZWDVW

You'll also need their D2 converter plug @ 15 bucks/pair with rebased bulbs.

So this runs about about 300 or a little more, but the positives:

*Hella Ballasts are far superior to other asian-made knockoffs(i've seen many burn out after as little as 2 hours use).
*Almost entirely a 'plug and play' sytem(besides splicing etc).
*No need to drill the headlight enclosure like me (EXCEPT you'll need to drill to get the wires from the HID ballast into the enclosure.)

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I'm keeping this for my personal records, so when it's time to do HIDs (in the very near future) I have something to work with. Thanks, fibuz!

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no problem, good luck
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Something else to think about too with wiring. A lot of people will suggest that the ONLY way to wire up aftermarket HID's is by using a relay system hooked directly to the battery versus using the stock wiring harness.

This is probably a good idea.

However, I'm a rebel and truthfully if things fizzled it'd give me another reason to tinker with my car. So mine is hooked up directly to the stock harness. 6 months down and 0 issues thus far.

Choose your path wisely, though.

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I'm thinking of passing on the HID's for now and just getting some good headlamp bulbs and some driving lights. For the $, I think I'll get better light output.

FWIW, I bought the sylvania silverstars and I think they stink! If anyone wants 'em PM me.
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osram silverstars > sylvania silverstars
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I'll second that.

The osrams don't have the blue tint of the sylvanias and throw a lot more useful light.

On my wife's RS we used to run sylvania silverstars in the headlights and fogs. Was a huge improvement over stock.

Now we run osram silverstars in the headlights and regular halogens in the fogs, which is better again. The osrams give more useful and even light without the bluish tint, and the more 'yellow' light of the regular halogens seems to be better in the fogs.
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thats what I'm hearing / reading. Anyone know how many lumens each bulb are? I also see Hella makes an H1 bulb....

where do you buy your osram bulbs? price?
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I bought them at a local 'import' shop a while back...don't remember how much...I think it was around 50-60 bucks. Wonder where those bulbs wondered off to.

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