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Old 08-23-2005, 11:42 PM   #1
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I was thinking about how I don't like Classical music. But game music (especially WWII games) use the same types of instruments but they can make the music sound cool. Can someone in the music field explain to me what they're doing? Is it like 1/16 instead of 4/4 (whatever the hell that means)?
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:42 PM   #2
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no.

just different songs.

its like cars.

some people jsut like some cars vs others (cars being classical music vs rock being busses or soem ****)
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:47 PM   #3
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Is it because even though they both use orchestras classical music are epic symphonies and game music is only 3 minute songs. There's a key feature about game music and why it sounds cooler when it's a freakin' orchestra and Tchaikovsky (I spelled the right on my first attempt!) is not teh awesomeness on the same level. He's like a level 2 noob and Jeremy Soule and Harry Gregson Williams is like level 4 with some new skills!
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:54 PM   #4
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its jsut how they compose and orchstrate the songs. its just like using regular music, rock, or say the mortal kombat soundtrack.
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Old 08-24-2005, 12:05 AM   #5
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So what is the main difference? That it's witten in the modern song style (a couple minutes in length)?

Your second sentence confuses me. It's not regular music (whatever the hell that is), rock, or mortal kombat music. It's still orchestral music but what are the features that make it sound awesome?
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In general...Orchastra > Rock.
Both are good, and very different, but I stand by my "inequality"

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Old 08-24-2005, 12:13 AM   #7
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No, no, no. Guys this game music isn't rock. It's music to games like Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Brothers in Arms (not all of those have cool tracks thoough but MoH is consistently scored very well).

Is there a new technique for writing classical pieces though? The orchestral stuff I've heard that's modern is pretty badass. Eg. the cool part of the Metal Gear Solid 2 theme, orchestral part for Nightwish's Ghost Love Score...
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some games use non orchestral music, so i jsut said regular music and sued rock as an example.


mortal kombat used rockish techno, as opposed to an orchestra.


but yes, I love game music like that, and even ripped the jurrasic park sega saturn game to my comp cuz the music is awesome.
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Old 08-24-2005, 02:08 AM   #9
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I think a lot of it has to do with the negative outlook people have towards classical music. Oftentimes people like classical music without even knowing it, but it's easy to think of lame, old guys the second they hear the name Chopin, or Shostakovich mentioned.

For an example, a popular wedding song, and even just a regular song on the oldies station is A Lover's Concerto by The Toys. Lots of people like this song without even knowing that the underlying melody is one of Bach's.

I'm sure with an open mind you could find classical music that you like. Just because someone has only listened to Dave Matthews Band, Creed, and Brittney Spears isn't enough to say that each one of those genre's suck.


I just thought about metal gear and medal of honor and battlefield 2. Could it be the beat that makes you like them more? They all tend to be on the faster side. (although still 4/4 time)

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Old 08-24-2005, 02:17 AM   #10
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I guess what I should ask is what is the difference between classical music and modern music pieces using orchestras today? Do we have a new octave they didn't?

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no, theres nothing different with the orchestras or how its played, jsut how they compose the songs.


hard to explain. yet a simple concept. i guess.
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There's something major though, even if it's how they're composed. They're doing something that they didn't way back then.
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i really dont think so, its not like they invented a new note or time, its just how they organize the instrumetns and when and how they play.

its like how current music is, its always changing, but usually done with teh same instruments (say singer, guitar, bass etc)
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So you think it's musical evolution?
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There's something major though, even if it's how they're composed. They're doing something that they didn't way back then.
Have you seen the Lord of the Rings movies? Great soundtrack, but it's less impressive listening on CD than it is when you're actually watching the movie. Games are the same way, certain music plays at certain times, sets up the whole mood. Most "classical" music has a theme, something the composer had in mind while writing the piece that most listeners completely miss. Take Beethoven's "Fur Elise", for example: If you understand that it is a love song, it makes the music much more understandable and enjoyable (although we know what it was really about ).
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