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Old 08-17-2001, 11:05 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Kartboy short shifter & bushings

If I could give more than one "thumbs up" icon, I would!

I think darn near EVERYone who's bought one of these just loves it. Awesome shifter. Much shorter throws, and the bushings give it a really notchy feel. (Which you either like... or you don't....)

I recommend you have a friend to help you install the shifter, as getting it to pop into the socket is a little tough. I tried mine when I was by myself and in a short-tempered mood, and ended up getting angry and bludgeoning the threads with a rock, trying to get it in there. If you have a second person to help push, it pops in pretty easily. This is a trait of ANY of the shifters... Kartboy, OEM, whatever. It's a necessary "evil."

Not to mention that the shifter looks very cool, much cooler than the stock one, and Tom & Mark ship it complete with a box of candies.

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Old 08-18-2001, 05:32 AM   #2
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Pops right in with a 5 lb. rubber mallet! No Impreza is complete without a Kartboy.
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Old 08-18-2001, 05:34 AM   #3
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If one has a 5-lb. mallet, that is.
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Old 08-18-2001, 11:03 AM   #4
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If one has a 5-lb. mallet, that is.
remember that MALLET not MULLETT.

i was starting to think no one liked my shifter.. i didnt get any reviews.
but you love me... you really love me.
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Old 08-18-2001, 11:11 AM   #5
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Thumbs up I rate the Kartboy shifter a 10.

The Kartboy shifter and bushings is very well made. One of the highest quality aftermarket parts I have installed. Shift is short solid and no additional modifications are needed. I rate this product a 10. Can't go wrong with one of these.

I installed with an axle puller. screw it on to the stock shifter and pop, it is out and his went in that easy too.

Tom is a great vendor too. Part came in no time in the mail.

He needs to expand his product line to include more high quality goodies.
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Old 08-18-2001, 01:07 PM   #6
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Tom: When I get my Impreza ill take one off your hands. Theres literally 10 short shifter kits on the market for soobs and yours always comes up in discussion.
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Old 08-19-2001, 06:51 PM   #7
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I really like my new Kartboy shifter in terms of throw distance and feel (I haven't installed the bushings yet), but I have a slight concern... I get a high pitched "whining" sound when I shift into 2nd gear. I believe it to be the syncro mesh(?) Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a solution?

Overall, great product!! I just hope I didn't break it

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Old 08-19-2001, 07:12 PM   #8
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I like the feel of the Kart boy more than the Syms I tried.

BTW, how much shorter are the throws than stock for the WRX?
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Old 08-19-2001, 07:59 PM   #9
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The WRX shifter felt pretty similar to me compared to the old RS, so my guess would be that the feel is greatly improved, and the throw decreases quite a bit.

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Old 08-19-2001, 09:25 PM   #10
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I agree- Kartboy service and product both are great. I ordred, Tom said "here ya go", priority mailed it to me, and was installed a couple of days later. Best mod to date. (Till the scoobysport comes in!)

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Old 08-20-2001, 09:13 PM   #11
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I have to say that I love the new shifter and bushings. For some reason, I had a crazy time trying to get mine popped in, but it finally went. I think that the bushings make a big difference too, as I ran through the gears a few times with the shifter ad the stock bushings. So go ahead and save yourself some money in the long run and buy the shifter + bushings at the same time.
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Old 08-21-2001, 07:05 AM   #12
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We did, but if you keep quoting Sally Fields, we MAY change our minds!
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Old 08-21-2001, 12:51 PM   #13
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Old 08-21-2001, 02:40 PM   #14
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I like it, just like everyone else. I have to say however that the first drive I took in the car I didn't like it. It felt as though it took too much effort to move between gears and third gear was definitely not natural anymore. However, the second time I drove the car (the following day) I really liked it. Possibly it just took a little time for the lubrication to work into the bushings. More likely it just took my brain a while to adapt. Either way, shifting now once again feels natural. Can you say "snick"? If you had a Kartboy you could. You could say, "snick....snick....snick..."

Is there a downside? Well, to be honest yes, there are two small cons to the Kartboy shifter. One is entirely curable by the installer and the other may not bother you but would take a design revision to address.

First, NVH (Noise Vibration Harshness) is raised as was mentioned above when someone said that they could hear second gear more. This is the one for which there is a simple solution. I took a mountain bike tire tube and cut a length of it. I slid this over the shifter before I put the boot on and allowed it crumple up until I couldn't slide any more rubber on. Then I took the top end of the tube and folded it back over itself (think of how you fold socks). That will hold it on while you do the same to the bottom end so that it doesn't interfere with the linkage. Now reassemble as you normally would and viola, NVH problem solved.

The other con is the shifter's revised position, which is slightly farther away from the driver since the overall length of the shifter is shortened. This can only be addressed by a design revision by the manufacturer. The factory short throw shifter retains the stock shifter position and effort but at the sacrifice of throw length. To move the shifter position closer to the driver and retain the current throw would most likely increase manufacturing cost and in turn retail price. I wouldn’t want to pay more than I did… even if it meant an ergonomic improvement. I did say it was a small con, didn’t I?

All in all this is a nice product. It won't make you go faster, turn better or stop quicker but it feels so right that I would say that it is probably the way the car should have come from the factory. Oh, and you get a sticker for your toolbox.

Cost rating = 8/10
Product rating = 8/10
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Old 08-21-2001, 05:59 PM   #15
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did you install it with the bend coming towards you? I just wondered because I just about didn't and the way i put it in seems backwards... just a shot in the dark.
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Old 08-22-2001, 10:35 AM   #16
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Old 08-23-2001, 09:05 AM   #17
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Talking I LOVE MINE!!!!

I installed my shifter about two weeks ago, and I love it! Me and a freind installed in in like 20 mins, very easy to install. We took her for a test drive and we didnt want to leave the car! It was so snick-snicky good! Feels like a Miata. Nice short throws, higher effort (slightly) and a good, solid feel. It was fun for a few days, but now I'm used to it, so I dont even notice it anymore, it just feels like it came that way stock. I think after a while when it gets broken in, it moves more freely, and the effort is not there. I personally like to put more muscle into my shifts. But I still love this thing! I cant wait to install my bushings already!!

Tom....I'm still waiting........do you still wanna trade for that hydraulic pump?????
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Old 08-23-2001, 09:01 PM   #18
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I just got my shifter and instlled it...not too difficult. I do have one problem though. When the shifter is in 1st, 3rd, or 5th, it is so close to the dash that I can't fit my fingers between the knob and the dash. I just need to learn to grab the shifter around the knob instead of on top of it. Not a big deal, just unexpected. A different knob might help too.

First time driving with it I accidentally went from 2nd to 5th I forgot to account for the shortness side-to-side. I got it quickly though.

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Old 08-23-2001, 09:09 PM   #19
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flip that bitch 180! you installed it backwards. we have install instructions on the website
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Old 08-24-2001, 07:56 AM   #20
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Now don't I feel dumb

I had the WRX instructions that do not show the direction to put it in and I could've sworn it went in the way I have it. The 98-01 RS instructions show it clearly. I'll switch it at lunch and let you know how much better it is

Thanks Tom.
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Old 08-24-2001, 09:10 AM   #21
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To fully enjoy Kartboy shifter benefits I'd recommend a combo - K-shifter/K-bushings/STi engine/transmission mounts/MOMO Race Air knob(or any other heavy ball-shaped knob that sits low)/Redline 75W90NS tranny oil.
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Old 08-24-2001, 12:20 PM   #22
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Thumbs up woo-hoo

I flipped the bitch over and stuck it in the right way (I am talking about the shifter ) and it is infinitely better. I'll try to install the bushings tomorrow.

os2 - I'll do the engine/tranny mounts/redline some day and plan to get a ball-type shifter soon.

Thanks again Tom
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Old 08-26-2001, 06:04 PM   #23
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Hey Tom,
My name is Bryant and I am purchasing a Kartboy Shifter and bushings from you. Since my mom doesn't like me adding any more modifications to the car, I cannot have the product shipped to my house. Instead, I gave my friend Andrew, who is a proud owner of a kartboy shifter, the money to put on his paypal account. He will order the shifter/bushings for me and have it sent to his house. Damn, that was one long run-on sentence. Oh well. Can't wait to get my shifter and bushings. I heard that the Kartboy product is the most talked about among subaru owners.

p.s. : Tom, din't you say you would install the thing for me when I move down to Irvine for College? I hope so! Thanks.

Sincerely,

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Old 08-26-2001, 11:53 PM   #24
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Did we start putting on the "Parental Advisory" stickers yet?

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Old 08-29-2001, 10:21 PM   #25
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