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Old 10-06-2003, 08:29 PM   #1
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Question Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 still the best snow tire?

What do you all think? Or is their a better one out their?
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Old 10-06-2003, 08:53 PM   #2
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A number of people swear by the Nokian Hak 1's in very snowy areas (like VT )

What will work best depends upon the weather/ snow/ ice conditions in your area.

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Old 10-07-2003, 08:29 AM   #3
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Best ice tires - maybe. Best snow tires? Probably not - it depends on what you mean by "snow".
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Old 10-07-2003, 08:55 AM   #4
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I would say ...YES ... they are simply amazing in the snow ... I have actually driven past stuck SUV's and 4x4's with them and also driven through 12" of snow and drifts taller than the car .... they are amzing tires when it comes to ultimate snow and ice traction

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Old 10-07-2003, 12:40 PM   #5
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Well how about this? They will be going on the Forester and I might be going to VT this year to go skiing.
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Old 10-07-2003, 12:49 PM   #6
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I second what Luke said. One year in Evanston, Illinois, our alley was snowed in sufficiently badly that Ford Explorers and the like couldn't get out of their garages. My Blizzak (WS-15...the 50s are supposed to be better)-shod Legacy GT wagon, pulled out of the garage, and drove up and down the alley, no problem. One guy asked "What kind of car is that," after seeing me come up the alley in snow so deep, it was washing over the hood...there was actually snow in the hood scoop. I love Blizzaks, and I got four seasons out of mine, though some of their last season, I had gotten down to the all-season tread.

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Old 10-07-2003, 06:03 PM   #7
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Hakka 1's were the best snow tire hands down, every other car in Vermont runs them. I say were as they are being replaced with the Hakka 2's, which I know nothing of, except that I have yet to see a bad word on a Nokian tire from a user, I trust in the reputation of the co.. As for ice tire, if ice is your main concern I would only consider a studded tire or chains, even the best rated studless winter for ice is in reality still bad on ice. Its like the best spike less winter boot on ice your still going to slip, you need something hard to dig in.
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Old 10-08-2003, 10:43 AM   #8
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Hakka 1's were the best snow tire hands down, every other car in Vermont runs them. I say were as they are being replaced with the Hakka 2's, which I know nothing of, except that I have yet to see a bad word on a Nokian tire from a user, I trust in the reputation of the co.. As for ice tire, if ice is your main concern I would only consider a studded tire or chains, even the best rated studless winter for ice is in reality still bad on ice. Its like the best spike less winter boot on ice your still going to slip, you need something hard to dig in.
The Hakka 1's are made by Nokian? I don't think it's at tirerack?
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Old 10-08-2003, 11:31 AM   #9
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The Hakka 1's are made by Nokian? I don't think it's at tirerack?
Yup, Hakka 1's are by Nokian and it's not available at tirerack's website.
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Old 10-08-2003, 01:21 PM   #10
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Blizzaks are great on ice... but snow....

Nokian Hakka Q's or 1's are the best! Everybody up here in Alberta, Canada swears by them for street, auto-x, rally-x.
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Old 10-08-2003, 04:29 PM   #11
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Yep the added bonus with all nokian tires is they have an amazing tredwear in comparison to most other winters so it makes them very good for ralley-x and gravel. I wouldnt use winters for Auto-x though, unless your talking about temps in the 20's and below, or the NRz's.

Nokian tires are available online at www.etires.com and at almost every tire store in Northern New England and Canada.
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We have winter auto-xs up here. They are way more fun than dry pavement!!!
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Old 10-08-2003, 04:42 PM   #13
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That does sound like fun, I personaly find my WRX much more fun in the winter, and snow.
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Old 10-08-2003, 05:05 PM   #14
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I just put my winters and mud flaps on... snow baby snow!!! Unfortunately we're having an "Indian Summer" right now which is freak warm weather in the fall... it's usually cold now.
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Best Ice --> Blizzak
Best Snow --> Nokian

Worst treadwear --> Blizzak
Best Treadwear --> Nokian

Highest price --> Nokian
Best availability --> Blizzak

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I would say ...YES ... they are simply amazing in the snow ... I have actually driven past stuck SUV's and 4x4's with them and also driven through 12" of snow and drifts taller than the car .... they are amzing tires when it comes to ultimate snow and ice traction

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ditto. they are really incredible.
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Old 10-09-2003, 10:07 AM   #17
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I second what Luke said. One year in Evanston, Illinois, our alley was snowed in sufficiently badly that Ford Explorers and the like couldn't get out of their garages. Kevin
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I live in St. Louis Mo. It is raining here, and I noticed my RE92's are NOT providing enough grip.

I am thinking about the Nokians. We dont have severe snow, but we have ice, rain and snow, and the road can get pretty greasy.

Are the Nokians overkill? I was thinking of the DunlopSP winter Sport M3's

I am looking for grip for safety is my primary concern, wear is not much of an issue for me if I can get at least 2 winters out of the tire

Opinions?
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Old 10-09-2003, 12:26 PM   #19
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Did you go to NU?
No, I was just living there in the good old days, before it went condo crazy.

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Old 10-09-2003, 02:49 PM   #20
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hey, those are nice condos. I would love to live in one...

too bad I can't afford it!

next week i'm moving to wheaton though... much cheaper
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Would it be ill advised to get the Hakka 1's if I do not drive in ice? If so, what model Hakka is advised?

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Hakka Q's are more of a snow tire. The 1's IIRC are setup to accept studs. The Q's are siped like crazy!
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Rexxer -

I was looking at the WR's. What do you think of those?

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I was just looking at the WRs last week. They are more of an all-season tire than the Q and 1's, but they look like they would be great for most people in the winter... these would be a great all around tire for people that aren't on snow and ice all winter long.
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Quote:
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Best Ice --> Blizzak
Best Snow --> Nokian

Worst treadwear --> Blizzak
Best Treadwear --> Nokian

Highest price --> Nokian
Best availability --> Blizzak

Any comments?
Yes, are those your user-based assessments? Which model of each tire did you use? I still haven't made my final call, and have to pretty soon (well, not pretty soon, but sooner than I would like, which is NEVER )

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