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Old 08-30-2005, 02:31 AM   #1
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Hey all,

Some of you may remember me coming to TXIC a while back saying how much I liked my visit to Fort Worth. Well, after talking to my better half, we're thinking seriously about moving your way in a couple of years (probably not any sooner). Our first kid is on the way now and we think we'd be better off raising him outside California.

I can't believe how inexpensive the houses in your area are. I've been finding a lot of 4000+ft homes available in my price range (<$300K). The ones I like seem to be mostly on the north and south ends of the area.

Oh yeah, a buddy of mine from work is originally from that area. He says I should avoid bedding down in the Grand Prairie area. Is that area still bad? I'm guessing it is because the prices there seem to be lower than they are for other areas (e.g., Saginaw, Keller, Kennedale).
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:21 AM   #2
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north ft worth is developing quiet nicely keller, southlake, saginaw will develop and connect nicely, id choose somewhere in that area (north ft worth)
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:44 AM   #3
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Grand Prairie is bad? Funny... that is news to me and I have lived here for 26 years....

People that live in the more expensive areas like to think that they are better and that the less expensive parts of town are bad... but do some searching on the word Plano and see how many threads exist about their cars getting broke into and read how surprised the people are that it would happen in Plano (a snobby part of town )...

Anyway.... with your price range being so high... you can rest assured that you can buy a huge ass house in our area... housing is just so much cheaper out here than in California... it amazed me when my friend told me her house appraised at $350K and is the same size and about the same size lot as my own (which appriases near $125K)... it just boggles the mind... you guys get raped on gas prices as well as housing...

Come on out to Texas and hang out...
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:47 AM   #4
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There are some nice places in Hurst, Euless, Bedford, Colleyville, Grapevine (if you like heroin), Keller, Flowermound, Trophy Club. Basically, that north Fort Worth line, extended due east.

Burleson is really taking off though.
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:27 AM   #5
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Southlake, Keller and Colleyville are pretty nice. You can also go north of the lake to Flower Mound, etc. I would try to stay between I-35W and I-35E so you can commute to both Dallas and Ft. Worth.
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:34 AM   #6
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Arlington near the lake. I can drop someone at the airport from my house (near Green Oaks and I20) in 30 minutes (uh - not during rush hour) close to great shopping yet kinda secluded. Colleyville,etc as folks said...NE Tarrant Co. Edgecliff Village for close in w/low taxes.

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Old 08-30-2005, 11:00 AM   #7
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I hate all of the mid-chitties honestly you need to plan where you live based on where you work... Fort worth is 57 miles tall and I think around 30 miles wide... Dallas is NOT right next door. Highway 121/183 will be undrivable for at least 20 years. There is no easy commute if you live in a mid *****ty err city.

A huge mistake a lot of the people I know made is that "Oh DFW, yeah I can just get a house somewhere in fort worth or dallas and work wherever." Well you can live in fort worth and have a 50 mile 2 hour commute to your job IN fort worth...

Arlington (where I grew up and got out of as soon as I could) and its little snob children: Dalworthington Gardens and Pantego are the police harassment capitol of the world.

Flower mound, South Lake, Corinth, Collyville, Addison, Plano, Allen, Trophy Club, Frisco etc are all places I HATE. They are exactly like L.A. except without the beaches, money, models, actors, cool cars, and weather... Traffic, property taxes, and a$$holes is all they offer.

I live outside of any city limits, have a 30 minute commute to work(in plano $$$), can set off fireworks where I live, have a cheaper, bigger house with a 3 car garage, and have good quality empty highways and fun gravel roads at my finger tips... and my neighbors aren't jerks.

but then again, I don't like the "Plano mentality" maybe you would... who knows.
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I hate city life.

How many kids do you have?
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Old 08-30-2005, 11:28 AM   #9
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The Colony frequently gets mentioned as a good value for homeowners. Though the 'alleyway' layout has been a crime issue I believe.

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Old 08-30-2005, 11:30 AM   #10
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How many kids do you have?
1 and there is no way my wife would let me put him in any public school anywhere, so that is not an issue...

And I don't hate city life... I hate SUBURB life... I loved living in Denton, and I didn't mind living in Fort Worth a few years ago.

I hate the mid cities because they try to pretend like they aren't texas... not that I am a cowboy or anything, but I don't live in LA(anymore), and neither do they...
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:06 PM   #11
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The area I'm in (north Fort Worth, north of the 820 loop, south of Keller) is expanding at an enormous rate. All of the new construction makes prices for pre-owned houses really affordable. I bought the home I'm in now back in October 2004 for $120K (appraised at $131K) -- it's a nice 6-year-old house in a pretty neighborhood (Park Glen). It's my first house, and way better than I ever expected my first home to be.

Come on out! It's nice out here...
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:21 PM   #12
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i live in grand prairie and it's not too bad. i'm in a nice (rental) house in a nice subdivision close-ish to work.

overall the things i don't like about living here have more to do with DFW than anything else.... the ungodly traffic, the fact that going from one "suburb" to another can take hours, crappy air quality, not much to do outdoors (i like to hike/backpack/rock climb) without a long drive.

there's also very little "local color" other than the fact that everything you buy says "texas edition!" or "lone star state" on it..... you have to work really hard to find a restaurant or store you couldn't find in any city in the US (chilis, blockbuster, wal-mart, etc). we started calling it the strip-mall starter kit. i was really hoping dallas would have a particular "style" or feel to it, and really it's just like everywhere else. except people tell you 30-40 times a day how great texas is.

<-- not messing with texas, just saying
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:25 PM   #13
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All I know is that he said Ft. Worth area and I don't consider any of those mid city places to be Ft. Worth....of course I am also a firm believer that Ft. Worth is so far west of Dallas that it's actually in Cali....somewhere between San Diego and San Fransico..haha

Cheap housing in Ft. Worth area....North on 35W outside of downtown. One of my buddies lives out there and his house is twice the size of my Dallas house and was about 30k cheaper. Nice quiet area too and still lots of housing going up around there.

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Old 08-30-2005, 12:51 PM   #14
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All I know is that he said Ft. Worth area and I don't consider any of those mid city places to be Ft. Worth....of course I am also a firm believer that Ft. Worth is so far west of Dallas that it's actually in Cali....somewhere between San Diego and San Fransico..haha

Cheap housing in Ft. Worth area....North on 35W outside of downtown. One of my buddies lives out there and his house is twice the size of my Dallas house and was about 30k cheaper. Nice quiet area too and still lots of housing going up around there.

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yeah Fort Worth northside is pretty cool, and Ft Worth actually has local color, whereas Dallas tries too hard to be LA and the mid cities try too hard to blend in. But like I said, better not get a job in Dallas 3 hours away...
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:28 PM   #15
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Thanks for the good info from all. Yeah, houses there are MUCH cheaper than they are out here. The house I'm in now, I bought in Feb '03 for $165K. It is now estimated to be worth over $270K. There is a housing explosion going on here.

Not sure where I'd work yet. I could probably get a job at Carswell JRB, but I'll probably look at a different government-type job (DLA, DCMA, etc). I have no clue what parts of the DFW area their locations are in. Perhaps that would help me get a better idea of where to focus my attention.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:45 PM   #16
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Another place you might look at is Mansfield which is south of Arlington. I moved back here for one reason really... it is one of the best school districts in the state (last time I looked it was number two), ironically it is the same reason why my parents moved to Mansfield (I went to school here from about 5th grade). Housing is very competitively priced and you have a wide price range to choose from. Bad things about Mansfield... it is growing very fast, which can make it congested and traffic can be a pain, taxes are pretty high (to pay for the good schooling). I am sure there are other bads but I am happy with things right now, my kiddo actuallly likes her school and does well, very positive for me lol.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:16 PM   #17
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Actually, a few of the houses we like a lot are right there in the Mansfield area. Certain demands we have are 4000ft or bigger, 2+ car garage, GAS heat, and GAS cooktop. I don't understand why the great majority of houses there are almost completely electric, but electricity costs more than gas, plus if you like to cook, you'll know that gas stoves are better than electric. Pool/spa would definitely be nice, but I think we're more concerned with having a nice looking house with the GAS features more than anything else.

The houses we like in the Mansfield area are right between the sports complex and that Britton Park.

Assuming parts of Grand Prairie really aren't that bad, I'll consider that area. But one big reason we're interested in moving is to ensure our kid(s) can be raised in a better environment. Good educational system is a major plus, so if Mansfield ISD is #2 in the state, it definitely sounds like the right area for us (hopefully).
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:48 PM   #18
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Question for your rain racer. You are referring to mid-cities as Bedford, Euless and Hurst? I like it there, actually. It's nice and quiet. Where I am most of the folks are retired, or are about to retire. I got a 2100+ sq. ft. house under $120(value of house is $139,500). The elementary school, middle school and high school is less than 2 miles away(all 3 of them).

Mansfield is pretty decent from what I've heard(friends). Denton would be a decent place to go as well...


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Old 08-30-2005, 03:02 PM   #19
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FYI, any "quality" house will be gas heat/water heater/cook top. If some of the houses you are looking at are "All Electric," RUN!!
That means lesser quality home, so-so neighborhood, etc. You also want a HOA to protect your property value!!
Your best bet is to go with one of the builders that are more of a "custom type" versus a mass producer, "cookie cutter" type builder. DO NOT buy Fox & Jacobs or KB Homes, they are cheap & you get what you pay for...
Good luck in whatever you decide!!
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:35 PM   #20
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Um 121/183 undrivable? ahahah if you think thats bad, visit houston once in a while, the commute from ft wroth to dallas at 5 oclock isnt that bad at all, now dallas to ft wo worth is a lil rougher but there are plenty of alternate routes, and ive drivent hem all, commute is not bad, aside from 820 e/w for a 2 hr period
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yes mid cities = the chain of cities that connect dallas and Ft Worth... I lump all those hangers on, but H-E-B and North Richland hills are the worst, I mean 183 west bound is a parking lot for HOURS each evening, our fertility doctor was on 183 and it was often STILL stopped at like 9:00pm. I agree that those places would be o.k. to retire in, but not if I had to commute. I would rather drive for 10 minutes at 60mph to get to the grocery store than sit in traffic for 10 minutes to get to the store.

As for school quality... I could never understand why people are wiling to take a huge Property Tax loss + buy in a more expensive area when that easily costs more than living somewhere cheaper/bigger/less crowded plus tuition at a school that is not run by the state... tuition is often tax deductable too...
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Rain_racer has the right idea around here... and I have been looking as such... make a little longer commute but have 5+ acres of land instead of the 1/10 acre new homes are built on... I want room for a shop... at least a shop big enough to actually WORK on two cars at once (with a lift in one bay) because I plan on having a long term project (see: classic muscle car/truck) and then my daily use bay...

But as far as calling out the midcities... ummm.... everything you are complaining about is just the north cities... the south side (IH20 corridor) is actually very nice for travel and rarely backs up (not an everyday thing like 183 or IH30).

As for the guy that is looking.. Mansfield is very nice... and has some great areas to buy at or buy land and build on. It is just south of where I live (yes, in Grand Prairie) and most of my car friends live down there (all in very nice homes).
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Rain racer, have you ever lived in a city with a bigger population aside from DFW metro? Try Miami. 183 is a walk in the park compared to I-95 or the turnpike during rush hour. I'm out the door at 6:15 and I get to SoD within 30 minutes in the morning. Evening I get out at 4, and I'm often home by around 4:45. I don't think that's too bad considering its 25 miles away(house to work). If 183 is clogged, I can take 114. Yeah, sometimes I'm stuck in traffic for over an hour, but its no worse than any other parts of town. Sometimes when I was stuck in traffic in West Palm, it'd take me 45 minutes to go 7 miles. So to me hear talk about traffic being bad in that part of town is funny. Yes, it backs up, but it's not horrible...



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I hate all of the mid-chitties honestly you need to plan where you live based on where you work... Fort worth is 57 miles tall and I think around 30 miles wide... Dallas is NOT right next door. Highway 121/183 will be undrivable for at least 20 years. There is no easy commute if you live in a mid *****ty err city.

A huge mistake a lot of the people I know made is that "Oh DFW, yeah I can just get a house somewhere in fort worth or dallas and work wherever." Well you can live in fort worth and have a 50 mile 2 hour commute to your job IN fort worth...
Wow I live in Fort Worth and don't know of a 50 mile 2 hour commute. What commute is this? Do tell.
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Wow I live in Fort Worth and don't know of a 50 mile 2 hour commute. What commute is this? Do tell.
I said possible, not likely... say you lived south of 20 and worked at Texas motor speedway (yes both are in City of Ft Worth even though the TMS has a Justin Address now, the highway signs say "City of fort worth")

I was just trying to demonstrate that city names mean nothing for commutes in the DFW area... I know too many people that didn't understand what a monsterously huge area this is.

or howabout 40 miles to alliance airport google directions

pretty crazy considering they are both in the same city...
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