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Old 09-01-2005, 02:00 AM   #1
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Here are a few crappy shots from tonight after I finished my install. More tomorrow if I can catch dusk. Pitch black + bright lights = bad photos.

HID kit is a prototype from a friend of mine who does a lot of auto lighting sales and whatnot. 8000k temperature. Very nice so far (can't judge too much after only a couple hours).

I'll post a much more detailed write up about the product and the installation process if anyone is curious. Unfortunately I got caught up in trying to get the damn things in that I forgot to take a few photos I had wanted. But whateva. Time to find another LGT to hack apart for someone else

Anywho....

Normal photo. Old headlights (sylvania silverstars) were very close to the color of the foglights pictured here. So you can see the obvious upgrade .



Side by side comparison with my mom's 03 Forester and her stock halogens:



Aaaaaand some fun with exposure times




Sorry for the lack of better and/or more pics. Should get some up shortly.
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Old 09-01-2005, 05:16 AM   #2
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congrats on the install! welcome to the world of good lighting...

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Old 09-01-2005, 06:51 AM   #3
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Looks good man!! And that last pic looks like a psychadelic Audi symbol.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:35 AM   #4
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very nice! we're all looking for HIDs.
are they projectors? in stock reflector housing? low only? details, detail
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:44 AM   #5
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very nice! we're all looking for HIDs.
are they projectors? in stock reflector housing? low only? details, detail
Ditto! How much for a set?
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:55 AM   #6
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Although definitely a cool factor, I am quite content with the stock headlights. It provides more than ample lighting for even the darkest situations.. I live in the Pocono Mountain area and work at the southern most parts of Maryland (no street lights whatsoever) and the Legacy lights are vastly superior IMHO to any of my other cars. And definitely much brighter than the fog lights.

Does anyone else feel that stockers are not sufficient? I guess my only concern is whenever one of those expensive European cars are behind me or even in the incoming lane in front of me, the HIDs are blinding... That having been said, I still want to upgrade my 1G DSM with pop-ups to a better lighting system since those stockers are worthless. But since that car is so low to the ground, the only things I could possibly blind are small animals as they cross the road.

I guess my point is that better lighting does have a purpose but that stock BE Legacies seem to be sufficient.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:16 AM   #7
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I have switched to silverstars and find myself needing more light at night. Here in NH we have very few streetlights (only @ intersections) and many twisty / dark back roads (which i travel frequently). I also switched my fogs to hella yellowstars (55w 85w ordered last night). I find myself using them more + more. With that being said, I'd definately buy HIDs. In fact, I've been investigating lighting recently. Driving lights are a good option. I'd love a set of Hella FF1000's. they're cheap, but there's no real clean way to mount them on a BE.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:39 AM   #8
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someone correct me here if i'm wrong, but i think i remember reading somewhere that while white light might look cool, they also don't illuminate as well. granted most time when we switch out bulbs, we also bump up the output, so that sorta takes care of that.

Also, I think CR did a report a few years back about how some cars' headlight are actually a nuisance to other road users. the Audi TT is one that sticks out in my mind. It has to do with a combination of brilliant white light, and how the beam cuts off abruptly from fully lit to totally dark in such a short distance in the vertical plane. Great for the driver, but for everyone else on the road.

See here.

http://www.consumerreports.org/main/...1125578353873#
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:54 AM   #9
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yes. past a certain temp there is no more useable light. only a "cool" blue / purple light. I think 8000k is a bit much. I think i read around 5000k is the most useable light. after that, its just color preference.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:17 AM   #10
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Here to better understand HID's read this it very useful: http://intellexual.net/hid.html

Anything goiin over 5k is just for the color of the lights...There not putting anymore light on the road...They do look nice but just to much glare for me...Thats y id suggest u retro projectors into yr HL...Its worth it
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:38 AM   #11
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Looks good...something for me to consider. It's certainly better than putting my old set of Hella's on the roof rack!

Slightly off topic - is there a viable (read: cheap) solution for us to have round fogs? I just dig that round-fog action!
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:45 AM   #12
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TRH: 1 word: dremel.
you could mount anything on the bumber you want. I looks like the bumper beam is very close to the front plate mount. so thats an option. or you could fab some mounts and go from the rad support under the grille / over bumper.

It'd take some work, but shouldn't be too hard. I'd just be wary of the lights shaking too much.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:26 AM   #13
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I was thinking that maybe the equivalent model Outback bumper (with the round headlight cuts) would maybe bolt right up (and have to get repainted).... Right now though, my money focus is on gettin' some new skis.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:41 AM   #14
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Just to clarify some things...the "lower" the kelvin rating the more light output there is...so 8000k is less bright than 5000k....although, I think 8000k MAY still have more light output than halogen.

...I personally am using 4300k which is about the most light output you can get without the light being bright (lexus fog light) yellow (3000k).

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Old 09-01-2005, 11:46 AM   #15
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I was thinking that maybe the equivalent model Outback bumper (with the round headlight cuts) would maybe bolt right up (and have to get repainted).... Right now though, my money focus is on gettin' some new skis.
A couple of people have done this actually. Nitrohuffer comes to mind.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:54 AM   #16
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Doesn't look bad but that first shot reminds me of a Grand Am.
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:33 PM   #18
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Wow, you guys work fast!

So much for being uber-original - well, if someone tags me, I guess I have options now.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:53 PM   #19
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very nice! we're all looking for HIDs.
are they projectors? in stock reflector housing? low only? details, detail
No projectors - stock reflector housing. HID is low only, stock brights are still in there. Before it was difficult to see what lit up with the brights, seeing as how the low beams are still on. Now it's definitely very obvious

The kits will likely be available in a few months, and are pretty cheap - about $250 for a set.

The stock headlights were okay in my book. I could've keep going on with them. But with the chance to upgrade both my car's looks, aftermarket parts count, and light output, I couldn't resist.

The main reason I got the 8000k was the light color. I figured at that range it would still be brighter than the Silverstars, which they are. So I'm happy.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:59 PM   #20
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are they $250 brighter? go for a ride tonight and let us know how you like 'em.
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:33 PM   #21
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I drove around a bit last night, and they are definitely an improvement. I need to figure out how to AIM them, though. I want to point them up some more so the light shoots out further.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:12 PM   #22
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Here's a mid-day garage photo that I thought was kinda cool, so we'll post it.



The light is actually a slight purple, not blue. But for some reason unknown to me, Canon's don't like purple.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:18 PM   #23
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I have 20/20 vision but can't see as well as I would like at night so I am looking for brighter lights.

5000 Kelvans is in the area of natural sunlight. Print shops that care have light booths with roughly 5000 Kelvan lamps in them to accurately determine color. So I guess you can't get much brighter than sunlight.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:23 PM   #24
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Yeah - if you're looking for the most output out of your HIDs, you want in between 4000 and 5000k. After that you lose some light but gain some fun colors. But pretty much any of them are going to be an upgrade from standard halogens, even Silverstars (which I replaced with my HIDs, and was definitely worth it).
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:56 PM   #25
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Any updates on this kit?
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