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Old 09-03-2005, 11:11 AM   #1
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Unhappy Brown spots on paint - won't come off (pics)

After washing my car this morning, I found that some spots won't come off They seem to have worked their way into the paint somehow as they're smooth when you go over them by hand. The clearcoat seems intact as there doesn't seem to be any hints of it being eaten through. It's not sap from what I can tell, but they did appear after parking under a tree this week. I've tried claybar numerous times and there are no hints of it even coming off. These spots are pretty unsightly on a white Subie





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Old 09-03-2005, 11:20 AM   #2
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what have you used on it?
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:20 AM   #3
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im asking cuz meguiars 3 step works pretty good with some of that stuff. What about Lifter Bug and Tar Remover?
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:26 AM   #4
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I had a similar problem with my silver WRX. Except mine was a perfect rectangle, like somebody set something down on it in the middle of the paint process. The dealer said they would sand/repaint... but gave me the runaround with getting it done under warranty. It was most definitely under the clearcoat and probably under the paint... Assuming your problem is the same, no wax or cleaner will get it out, you have to sand. Oh and my spot really didn't work its way to the surface until like 15-20k miles. It was not there when I bought the car.
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:39 AM   #5
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Yike - I've only used soap and water, Claybar, and a dab of Simple Green. I don't see how these spots worked their way into the paint without it damaging the clearcoat
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:33 PM   #6
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Try some polishing compound like Meguiar's swirl remover or fine cut cleaner. If it is just affecting the very surface of the clearcoat, then the compounds should work.
With that said, I had a white 91 Sentra SE-R that experienced a similar problem quite often. I removed the spots by bleaching them - not kidding. However, do this at your own risk.
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:36 PM   #7
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oh noes!

do you have any goo gone?
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:54 PM   #8
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The Meguiar's compund sounds like it might work. Haven't used Goo Gone yet, but I'll try that too. Thanks for the idea already - if there are any more ideas, keep em' coming
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:57 PM   #9
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Hank, search and post pics over on www.autopia.org and see what the detailing guys on the forum have to say about it. Hopefully they will have some insight for you. Good luck!
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:13 PM   #10
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Thanks 5spdfrk. I've posted a thread on there. Just tried Goo Gone and it didn't do a thing. The spots really do seem like they're under the clearcoat.

Is this Meguiar's compund stuff available pretty much anywhere (Wal-Mart, Advance Discount Auto, Autozone)?
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:15 PM   #11
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Do you think it could somehow be rust surfacing through the paint? Thats the only thing I can think of if it is coming from underneath the clear.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:17 PM   #12
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I don't think so. I parked under some pecan trees on campus here and I noticed the spots appear after that. Just didn't get to it till a couple days afterwards (which was this morning). It's just weird how it worked through the clearcoat without the clearcoat being affected
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Old 09-03-2005, 02:52 PM   #13
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Yeh, super strange imo. Well, make sure to let us know how it all turns out.
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Old 09-03-2005, 02:55 PM   #14
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I don't think so. I parked under some pecan trees on campus here and I noticed the spots appear after that. Just didn't get to it till a couple days afterwards (which was this morning). It's just weird how it worked through the clearcoat without the clearcoat being affected
Dang paint gremlins they did something similar to my roof
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:41 PM   #15
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I lost a CV Boot and the grease that comes out of there is some STRONG stuff. I had a tough time getting it off with normal car washing.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:06 PM   #16
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More than likely these are inperfections in the paint/primer that have just recently worked their way to the surface.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:35 PM   #17
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Malco Purple Clay Bar with some Mist-it spray and shine will get it off...
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:45 PM   #18
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More than likely these are inperfections in the paint/primer that have just recently worked their way to the surface.
Really?

Sev - how similar is the Malco stuff compared to Mother's Clay Bar?

A couple members from the autopia forums suggested this ABC stuff:

http://www.autoint.com/autostore/pc/...ct=196#details

Anyone have any experiences with it?
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:58 PM   #19
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You could try HondaBrite. It comes in a spray can and works like claybarring and it polishes too. You can get it from any honda dealership and its only $8-10. Just make sure you use a microfiber towel to apply.
Before you try anything drastic if nothing seems to work you could take it to a pro-detail shop and see what thry think.
Good Luck!
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:58 PM   #20
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when I had my white WRX wagon I had a similar occurance.
One day shortly after the purchase of my wagon I washed and cleaned the car to show it off at a family gathering. Just my luck we ran into a thunderstorm on the way. Even though the car did not get very dirty the tire shine washed off from driving in the rain. So, from what I could tell, the tire shine along with the rain water caused some brownish/yellowish stains on the paint down the side of the car from behind the front tires down. At the time I used formula 2001 tire shine, the kind in a bright green bottle. I was disgusted to say the least and could find nothing to remove the stains. Gradually over a weeks time the stains disappeared and I stopped using formula 2001. No idea why this happened.
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Old 09-03-2005, 06:55 PM   #21
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Really?

Sev - how similar is the Malco stuff compared to Mother's Clay Bar?

A couple members from the autopia forums suggested this ABC stuff:

http://www.autoint.com/autostore/pc/...ct=196#details

Anyone have any experiences with it?
Not familiar with Mothers bar...but I can send some of the malco bar if you wana try it. Just send me yer addy
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I had a similar problem with my silver WRX. Except mine was a perfect rectangle, like somebody set something down on it in the middle of the paint process.

I HAVE THE SAME THING ON MY FRONT FENDER! Its a perfect long rectangle!!!!!
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:51 PM   #23
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I HAVE THE SAME THING ON MY FRONT FENDER! Its a perfect long rectangle!!!!!
So yours seems like it's under the clearcoat? Did it just appear out of the blue or do you think something got on the car and then it mysterically seeped underneath the clearcoat?
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Old 09-04-2005, 05:06 PM   #24
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One of the techs at the dealer I work for splashed some brake fluid on a car by accident, and it wasn't until a few weeks later the person came back in. But the spots looked alot like those. They almost didn't look like surface spots, but like spots from underneith the clear coat.

I doubt thats what it is, just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:40 PM   #25
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Thumbs up Almost all gone...

Update on the spots. A local guy offered to help by using some of the cleaning agents he had last Saturday. The spots dimished a little bit after he used some light compounds. After that, I decided to just not worry about it

Fast forward to this week: The spots are almost all GONE!!! I have done absolutely nothing to them since the guy tried to clean them off. I'm sooo clueless as to what occurred but am very thankful that they mysteriously disappeared. Talk about some intriguing contaminants

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