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Old 08-20-2001, 05:40 PM   #1
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Default Strut Tower Bar

Thinking of installing a strut tower bar on my 00 Legacy GT. Is it worth it? What brand is good for the car? Is it easy to install?
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Old 08-20-2001, 05:56 PM   #2
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I think the general consensus among Scooby owners is strut bars are mainly engine bay dress-up parts which do less to improve Scooby handling than swaybars or endlinks. I think the strut bar is the last piece you want to purchase if you've done everything else: uprated swaybar, endlinks, aftermarket struts/springs or coilovers, aftermarket strut tops, etc. Might also want to note that it could make your engine bay tighter reducing the amount of free space you have for a top-mount intercooler.

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Old 08-20-2001, 06:16 PM   #3
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Talking the rear one works well

The Cusco rear "towerbar" works well, and sits low, almost on the floor of the trunk - so is not really in the way.

If you are tightening up the suspension, this will really do a good job of keeping things together at the back.

Up front, the problem is lower down, but Cusco has not released its front lower arm stiffener for NAs yet...

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-20-2001, 07:04 PM   #4
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Doh, forgot to differentiate between fronts and rears! Thanks, anotherb4. I hear rears are a little more worthwhile than fronts.

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Old 08-20-2001, 07:12 PM   #5
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Default A turbo front tower bar will fit...

AG, one could always go for a turbo spec front tower bar of course!!

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Old 08-20-2001, 09:44 PM   #6
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that prova carbon fibre rear stiffener looks really nice, too.

i think agscooby is right. it'll help, but pretty much only if the other upgrades are done first.

very easy to install, takes maybe 10-15 minutes. just don't overtighten the strut tower bolts or they may snap (i think recommended specs are 15-20 lb/ft., but don't quote me on that).
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Old 08-21-2001, 01:49 AM   #7
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I am currently using a SYMS front strut tower brace. I am thinking about getting the rear except I do not like the idea that some thing will block the rear when the seats are folded down.

I forgot to mention that this is on an MY00 Legacy GT Wagon.
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Old 08-21-2001, 01:53 AM   #8
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anotherB4 - The key phrase was...

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Might also want to note that it could make your engine bay tighter reducing the amount of free space you have for a top-mount intercooler.
I get your point though.

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Old 08-21-2001, 02:00 AM   #9
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AG - peace brother - even the turbo one (ie. bent one) does take some space, natch!

ImprezaWRXdriver - take a look at this. It's mounted on a sedan, but is the same as would go on a wagon. And if you need a fully flat bay, it takes about 3 and a half minutes (including getting the Allen wrench and spanner) to remove.

http://www.lumine.net/subaru/legacyb...reartower.html

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Old 08-21-2001, 02:36 AM   #10
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stupid question of the year here...
How can you have a rear strut tower brace on a 00+ Legacy when there are NO struts on the rear of the car???
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Old 08-21-2001, 03:56 AM   #11
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TIm,

You are absolutely correct to ask that, so go take a look at the link in one of the earlier posts - or go to legacyB4's site and look under mods I think (forgive me if I am wrong, but it is there somewhere). Unfortunately you can't see the connection, but there is a mounting point on what there is of a "tower" - hence the way I wrote my first post on the topic.

Naturally, it is not the same as putting in a full roll-cage, but it can add some nice rigidity to the rear of the car never the less.

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Old 08-21-2001, 12:17 PM   #12
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A front brace was one of the first changes I made and well worth it! I does stiffen the front of the car. Some may not notice a change with stock tires but with good tires the turn in is great! I have a GAB because it was one of the first ones avilable for the 2K.
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Old 08-22-2001, 11:47 PM   #13
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OK, I kinda figured that the 2K + Legs could not have a true tower brace and after looking at the pics see where the bar goes. I looked at my MY01 Leg wagon and there are small plastic covers over threded holes in a steel plate right in the middle of the rear wheel humps (on the inside) is this a mounting point for a cross bar?
If it is or you mount a cross member low to the floor anyway I would not think that it could do as much good vs. one that is mounted higher up (like actually atop a strut tower). To me the geometry seems to favor the top mount vs. a lower one. If it is near the floor wouldn't the floor already be relitivly stiff and non-flexing? The higher you move the bar "Up" (ie middle of the open cavernous wagon portion) the better it would eliminate any undue flexing of the chasis.
I dont know maybe I should just go to bed and worry about making my next car payment.
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Old 08-23-2001, 12:17 AM   #14
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One of my first mods on my MY97 Outback was the front strut tower bar and made quite a difference in handling. I am getting new struts and swaybars which will probably make more of a difference. From what I hear replacing the endlinks is cheap and makes a world of a difference in feel.

Just my $.02
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Old 08-23-2001, 01:42 AM   #15
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I did put an Ractive Front tower bar to my dad's 99 2.5GT without let him know, it just takes me about 15mins to install.
After the bar install, my dad had take the car to pick up my mom!
When he come back, he ask me what did I done on to the car because he really felt the car's steering is much stiff and feel good on the steering respond.
The bar doesn't cost too much and it did has the good effact!
So I will looking for the Rear bar for my dad's car also I will find all Front , rear and front lower arm bar for my 92 Legacy turbo!

Man, within $100, the front tower bar worth it!!!!!
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Old 08-24-2001, 02:12 AM   #16
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anotherB4,

Thanks for showing me that, it looks like a really cool setup. I might have to try that out one day.
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Old 08-24-2001, 11:12 AM   #17
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I just installed the JC Sports front "STi-style" bar in my 93 wagon, after having the CUSCO rear and a full coilover suspension for a while now.

It made a very noticeable difference, and i'm regretting not getting one earlier. When/if you do more suspension work, it'll make it even nicer.
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Old 08-24-2001, 11:46 AM   #18
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Now that we are getting more of a spread of generations (in Legacy terms at least!), I should note that the BC/BF and BD/BG platforms benefit from tower bars more obviously than the BE/BH.

Just stating the obvious, but the earlier cars had a lot more play in the shell of the car.

And for ImprezaWRXDriver - money may be an issue, but the earlier you do it, the more flex the bar will stop, which I am reliably told, helps the shell stay tighter, longer (who knows how much exactly though...?). Makes some sense I think...

One thing to note though...I think Tim mentioned there are no bolts sticking out on his towers...at least on our sedans there are bolts to attach straight onto (and the Cusco unit comes with locktite nuts). This may require some investigation.

Oh and lastly on the endlinks - do it do it do it! You'll be pleasantly surprised by the effect if you want some more responsiveness!

Hope this helps. Cheers.
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Thanks, again anotherB4.

I guess it does make sense, I will have to get on it right away then.
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