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Old 08-21-2001, 01:03 PM   #1
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Default GTBGUY- Brullen exhaust

I'll let Chris & Joe from TRi Tuning know whatsup!


So I got a 2.5" piping, with mild resonated sound, and a 4" tip coming my way!!! SWWEEETTTT!!!!! How long "pok gai"...another 2 months ?


I am starting to save up for the turbo system, so I guess I can wait a few more months !


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Old 08-21-2001, 01:22 PM   #2
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Ken - it'll take awhile, the WRX and the Impreza systems are still @ the forefront.
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Old 08-21-2001, 01:42 PM   #3
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GTBGUY - Quick question: Why is the single tip on available in a 4" size? Just wondering if you might know the answer. Four inches is getting close to the grapefruit launcher size that a lot of scooby owners want to stay away from. I would've preferred 3" or 3.5". I'm not even sure the 4" tip would fit properly in the 99 Outback sedan rear bumper cutout.

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Old 08-21-2001, 03:44 PM   #4
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Default 4" DEFINTELY NOT 5"

GTBGUY has a 4" on his and it just fills it in nicely!

So Legacy owners are pipsqeeks hah GTBGUY? We don't mean anything to you hah GTBGUY? So I guess it will come in next year hah GTBGUY? It's all good...I am a very patient man! You live longer that way! So can you smack on an additional 5%-10% discount for waiting so patiently? You dah man ... THANKS ...talk to you later pok gai!!!


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P.S. Let Chris or Joe @ TRi Tuning know when you expect it to come in...U DA MAN...THANKS!
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Old 08-21-2001, 05:21 PM   #5
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AGscooby - here's the answer for you

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<IMG SRC="http://www.ucalgary.ca/~jacho/19.jpg" border=0>

That's the single 4" tip. Looks alot better than the 3.5" that Stromung has, it definately has more integrated look.

CrazyKen - Well, I had to wait ages for mine too. Had you have ordered from me directly, you would've gotten yours several weeks ago.

Anyways, I will mention it to Chris.
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Old 08-21-2001, 05:44 PM   #6
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Ahhhhh... I forgot about the beveled tip. That helps quite a bit. Mmmm... need to find $500.

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Old 08-21-2001, 05:45 PM   #7
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...i THIUNK i'M FEELING THE PAIN!
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Old 08-22-2001, 01:07 PM   #8
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Thumbs up that lokks shaweeet

hehe, i know what my next purchase is........get ready for more questios GTB
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Old 08-22-2001, 03:40 PM   #9
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That's the same size tip as I have (no sexual connotations intended)!!!

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Old 08-23-2001, 12:41 PM   #10
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AGscooby,

I doubt that a muffler for a normal Legacy will work on your SUS without modifications. I know from firsthand experience that a Brospeed for a Legacy GT wagon won't fit an Outback of the same year without completely redoing the tailpipe. I think they aldo had to tweak the hangers a bit, but I'm not absolutely sure about that. Maybe the SUS bumper is closer to a regular Legacy sedan's, but I doubt it.

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Old 08-23-2001, 01:39 PM   #11
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dvancleve - IIRC, the Legacy Wagon systems should work on the Outbacks.
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Old 08-23-2001, 02:16 PM   #12
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GTBGUY,

Unless the Brullen fits a lot differently than the Brospeed (which bolts on just like stock on a Legacy wagon), it will not fit an Outback without extensive tailpipe mods. On my car, the Brospeed tip went almost straight into the bumper above the notch. It had to be extended about 6" or so and angled down a bit. They may have also tweaked the hangers a bit.

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Old 08-23-2001, 02:17 PM   #13
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I once noticed that wagon Stromungs were the same as Outbacks somewhere... maybe Cobb's website. It stands to reason that this would be the case for other muff makes. Of course, one can't deny Doug's first hand experience. Ugh... I dislike conflicting reports.

Now the question... a $500 experiment?

GTBGUY, do you know of any specific instance of an Outback running a Brullen yet?

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Old 08-23-2001, 02:27 PM   #14
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I will get them to double check the fitment. Muffler position and piping position of the Brullen's are different than that of the Stromungs, they can clear the rear differential protector (the Brullen) and the Stromung can't.
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Old 08-23-2001, 03:25 PM   #15
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GTBGUY, thanks. I appreciate your dedication to making sure things work out properly. I suppose you wouldn't want to get a whole bunch of mufflers returned to you either. Although I can't swing the change for the exhaust right now, I've had the Brullen system in the back of my mind since the first post announcing it. Keep us posted.

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Old 08-23-2001, 10:11 PM   #16
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No probs, I'm a diehard Legacy fan Heck I have 2!
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:38 PM   #17
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hey, that's my dirty legacy!!
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Old 08-24-2001, 11:05 PM   #18
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Etam,

I didn't notice that you had a "Single Tip" on your Legacy. Are you coming to the Hershey Centre Autox tomorrow (Saturday)? I wouldn't mind seeing it in person.

I'll be there to compete.

Hope to see you.

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Old 08-25-2001, 04:30 AM   #19
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Well, I can clear up at least one thing. Stromung does indeed have a different part numbers for the Legacy wagon and OB. I feel certain the pipe does exit lower on the OB. Heres the link:

http://www.stromung.com/subaru/price1.htm

However, Dvancleve and I do disagree on one point tho. I think the LENGTH of the OB and Legacy wagon rear sections are the same. I think he got a sedan rear section as I did. My tailpipe also needed to be lengthened about 6 inches. I checked the lengths for same year OB and Legacy wagons and the are virtually identical (.4" difference, probably in the front bumper fascia.) All the mounting brackets are correctly positioned and everything else bolts right up. So it would seem rather unlikely that there would be 6 inches difference in the tailpipe length, unless you got a rear section intended for the sedan. My .02
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Old 08-25-2001, 02:57 PM   #20
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I can tell you right now that if the muffler/catback is designed for a GT Wagon it will not fit properly on an Outback wagon, even one of the same model year.

Outback is a bit longer and the tip won't clear the rear bumper. Also, the hangers hold it up about a centimeter or so too high and it will rub against the little green thing/axle/type/thing.

Yes, I know I'm horribly technical in my explanation.

Luckily the stromung I bought from gtguy had been modified - kevin had the tip extended a few inches and so it fits almost perfectly on the outback. However, in the stock hangars, it was rubbing badly so I had to just use some tough gauge wiring to hold it in place. If the tip hadn't been extended I'd be melting the rear bumper.
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Old 08-25-2001, 06:02 PM   #21
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even if you bent the hangers to get the unit a little lower, the rear section would still be too short? How much too short? Thanks man. Looks like I stand corrected.
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Old 08-25-2001, 10:07 PM   #22
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are the brullens available for 91-94 legacy turbos?
If not, is there a place I can get just the muffler?
Thanks
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Old 08-25-2001, 11:41 PM   #23
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czo79 - I will look into that for you. But I can get you guys the individual mufflers too if you want to do a "custom" job. Won't work as well as a fully integrated cat-back or turbo-back unit though.
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Old 08-26-2001, 10:34 PM   #24
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How much for just the muffler w/4" tip for a 3" exhaust?
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Old 08-27-2001, 04:06 AM   #25
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I am also interested in a non-cat back muffler. WHat are the options (sound levels, finish, tip, etc.). Thanks.
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