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Old 09-13-2005, 05:04 PM   #26
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:05 PM   #27
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:12 PM   #28
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:15 PM   #29
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:24 PM   #30
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:27 PM   #31
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:30 PM   #32
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17in wheels are about the best size for pure performance, but you need some actual power to move them, which is a problem for a lot of cars.
mmm no. !7's are not the best for pure performance. The smallest lightest wheel that will fit over your (properly sized) brakes are the best for pure performance. The added weight, and rotational enertia of 17's can negatively impact performance. You are pushing more wheel, and more tire. There was a GRM article about it years ago, that I wish I could find. With adaquately stiff side walled 16's you will out handle, out brake, and out stop a car on 17's of the same contact patch, ie if you just plus size, and not add width. As far as proper brake size, you need brakes that can dispate the heat as to not fade, upgrading your brakes if you aren't expierencing fade is a wasted upgrade.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:30 PM   #33
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So this is just a shot in the dark, you like 944's?
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:34 PM   #34
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:34 PM   #35
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:37 PM   #36
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:38 PM   #37
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So this is just a shot in the dark, you like 944's?
Well, yes.

The first 944 was purchased as a track car that I could drive to and from the track. The second was purchased because I liked the track car so much on the street, and I had a bunch of parts for it, and eventually was traded in on the RS. The third ws purchased as a parts car for the first, but I sold the first car before pulling the drivetrain out of the second. Eventually, the third will get put back together as a street car.

I discovered that it's too expensive to run competitively as a track car for what I want to do.
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:00 PM   #38
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mmm no. !7's are not the best for pure performance. The smallest lightest wheel that will fit over your (properly sized) brakes are the best for pure performance. The added weight, and rotational enertia of 17's can negatively impact performance. You are pushing more wheel, and more tire. There was a GRM article about it years ago, that I wish I could find. With adaquately stiff side walled 16's you will out handle, out brake, and out stop a car on 17's of the same contact patch, ie if you just plus size, and not add width. As far as proper brake size, you need brakes that can dispate the heat as to not fade, upgrading your brakes if you aren't expierencing fade is a wasted upgrade.
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As a compromise, for most cars that size is 17's. Even with the corresponding brake size increase, there is not much gain from 17's to 18's, and only in very few cases are 19's better than 18's.

Net result: Unless you are a mid level or better pro race driver, the lap times on the same car, changing only brakes, wheels, and tires (keeping wheel and tire width the same), the on-track lap time difference from a 17 to a 19" wheel would be virtually unnoticeable. The brakes may feel better and the driver may be more consistent with the larger brakes and wheels, but the overall performance will be very close.
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:03 PM   #39
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:04 PM   #40
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:34 PM   #41
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:41 PM   #42
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mmm no. !7's are not the best for pure performance. The smallest lightest wheel that will fit over your (properly sized) brakes are the best for pure performance. The added weight, and rotational enertia of 17's can negatively impact performance. You are pushing more wheel, and more tire. There was a GRM article about it years ago, that I wish I could find. With adaquately stiff side walled 16's you will out handle, out brake, and out stop a car on 17's of the same contact patch, ie if you just plus size, and not add width. As far as proper brake size, you need brakes that can dispate the heat as to not fade, upgrading your brakes if you aren't expierencing fade is a wasted upgrade.
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Jeez, did you read the part where I said you need the power to do it? And yes, if you run 3 inch wide 17's a 16 will outhandle it, but you should not be running narrow 17's.
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:57 PM   #43
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14" (86 Subaru XT Turbo)
14" (96 Hyundai Elantra)
15" (92 Prelude Si)
14" (86 Scirocco 16v)
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18" (2004 R32)



Kinda interesting.

I wonder if we're at the logical conclusion for compact cars...
86 Mazda B-2000 14'' (2nd)
89 VW Scirocco 16v 14'' (5th)
92 VW Jetta GL 14'' (4th)
66 VW Bug 15'' two piece not stock (3rd)
77 Chev. Silverado 15'' (1st)
93 Honda Accord LX 15'' (7th)
96 Chev. S-10 15'' (6th)
02 Nissan Frontier 15'' (9th)
01 S2k 16'' (8th)
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Old 09-13-2005, 07:06 PM   #44
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