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Old 09-14-2005, 11:14 AM   #1
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Default Am I the only person in OT that likes SUVs?

I used to be in the "they are worthless, you don't need one, etc. etc." category.

But after the wife owning one for a while (that yes, we are wanting to sell, but not because we don't like SUVs, she wants a different SUV), I'm actually a fan.

Granted, gas mileage sux0rz, but other than that, I can see the appeal.

They ride ok overall, especially a newer one.

The ride height is nice, especially in traffic.

Around here the roads suck, so the big tires, and height, etc. help.

The room for transporting people/stuff is great. It's nice to have room for things like strollers, etc. and then still have more room for stuff bought at the store.

Would I own one if I were single? No. I don't have the need. But with a wife and kid, it sure does come in handy compared to the old Maxima she was driving for hauling all the stuff.

So, my old me would have denounced SUVs and said, "buy a wagon!", but I've changed my mind.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:15 AM   #2
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:17 AM   #3
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no...i'd kill someone for that new supercharged Range Rover that just came out
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:18 AM   #4
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no...i'd kill someone for that new supercharged Range Rover that just came out
Make sure they have 85k on them before you kill em


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Old 09-14-2005, 11:21 AM   #5
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Trailblazer SS..drool......

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Old 09-14-2005, 11:21 AM   #6
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I used to be in the "they are worthless, you don't need one, etc. etc." category.

But after the wife owning one for a while (that yes, we are wanting to sell, but not because we don't like SUVs, she wants a different SUV), I'm actually a fan.

Granted, gas mileage sux0rz, but other than that, I can see the appeal.
Wagon's would be better -5

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They ride ok overall, especially a newer one.
Wagon would ride like a car since it is a car -5
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The ride height is nice, especially in traffic.
This is nice to have +1
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Around here the roads suck, so the big tires, and height, etc. help.
Marginally agreeable on this one, as a car with a suspension would work as well, unless you are climbing rocks. -1

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The room for transporting people/stuff is great. It's nice to have room for things like strollers, etc. and then still have more room for stuff bought at the store.

Would I own one if I were single? No. I don't have the need. But with a wife and kid, it sure does come in handy compared to the old Maxima she was driving for hauling all the stuff.

So, my old me would have denounced SUVs and said, "buy a wagon!", but I've changed my mind.
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Not really sure I see you looking differently for an SUV than a soccer mom buying it because it is cooler.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:21 AM   #7
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The utility of SUVs as compared to 4-door pickup trucks is questionable. With a truck, you can actually haul stuff. Trucks can tow more, too. And diesel trucks get great gas mileage.

For big families, minivans with 3 rows of seating are definitely the way to go.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:22 AM   #8
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no...i'd kill someone for that new supercharged Range Rover that just came out
the guy a couple houses up from me owns the local dealership and always has 2 of those and the full range rover
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:23 AM   #9
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Parents need to say, "You don't need 10 tons of crap for a trip to the grocery store."

My parents hauled myself and my two sisters in 4 dr sedans for my entire childhood.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:26 AM   #10
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Parents need to say, "You don't need 10 tons of crap for a trip to the grocery store."

My parents hauled myself and my two sisters in 4 dr sedans for my entire childhood.
4 kids in the back of an '85 Camry from FL to PA for the win!!!
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:30 AM   #11
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For big families, minivans with 3 rows of seating are definitely the way to go.
Really? Hmmmmm...
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:31 AM   #12
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if you actually need one, an SUV is a perfect vehicle.. the problem is just that a staggering majority of the people who drive them don't actually need them..
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:34 AM   #13
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Total = -10

Not really sure I see you looking differently for an SUV than a soccer mom buying it because it is cooler.
Nope...the wife wants one over a minivan because it's cooler...not me.

I simply like them for what they are.

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The utility of SUVs as compared to 4-door pickup trucks is questionable. With a truck, you can actually haul stuff. Trucks can tow more, too. And diesel trucks get great gas mileage.
Totally agree...and if it were me buying it, I would go with the truck, but it is my wife's vehicle, and she likes teh SUV better.

I'm not saying I would choose an SUV over other choices for myself, or even future get a car for the wife after the baby becomes a kid, I'm stating that this "SUVS SUCK" attitude that even I used to share is no longer inside me.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:35 AM   #14
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Parents need to say, "You don't need 10 tons of crap for a trip to the grocery store."

My parents hauled myself and my two sisters in 4 dr sedans for my entire childhood.
Call them up, ask them if you and your sisters were little again if they would buy an SUV or a sedan.

Heck, they probably drive an SUV now, without you guys around...

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Old 09-14-2005, 11:36 AM   #15
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I love my Suburban. I can haul full 4x8 sheets of lumber in the back with no problem. It lays flat in the back!

I've taken a number of snow boarding trips with it, taking up to 5 people over 300 miles roundtrip with all of our gear, and still be comfortable.

The height is great for traffic, C I got you on that one.

I love the burly V8 sound, and actually hate the Subaru boxer sound. Unique it maybe, but lame sounding it is.

Torque, no 4 banger is going to have what a V8 has.

Easier to maintain. My Chevy Suburban has been around so long, and GM is known for using parts from other model cars and trucks. Plus AC Delco has lots of replacement parts when i need it. When I had my WRX from late '01 to '04, while I did most of all my own maintenance, the price for parts was considerably higher.


For all you SUV haters, your not better then anyone. Your car has it's pluses and minuses. I chose an SUV and love it, you chose a sedan/wagon and love it. My needs are different then yours, and I have yet to find a smaller vehicle to fit my needs.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:37 AM   #16
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Nothing wrong with the SUV. Just everything wrong with the asshat who is driving it.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:37 AM   #17
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I remeber needing an SUV in the winter as many of the back roads don't get attention until its too late. so the 4x4 and the ground clearance is needed in many situation even in maryland.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:37 AM   #18
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I'd drive an SUV if I had a fuel efficient second car. I really like those new Jeep Commanders. Trucks are cool and even more useful. But I don't have a need right now for an SUV or a truck.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:38 AM   #19
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They have their uses, but "daily driver" isn't one of them unless you need to keep your protection detail in the vehicle with you...
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:39 AM   #20
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Nope. I love the Land Rover Discoverys and would love to bring our Defender over here. But, having lived in AK and Michigan, and skiing, doing house stuff and major woodworking, I can say they are truly handy vehicles when used for their intended purpose.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:41 AM   #21
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I'm with C on this one. They have their uses.

My wife also owns a utility. Probibly the lowest of the low... Chevrolet Tracker (yes... the Suzuki), but it suits her just fine.

She's only 5' so the upright seating position tends to keep her further away from the airbag and sitting high helps with the driving visibility. 4WD or AWD was a requirement for winter traveling and I'd honestly rather drive her truck in the snow than my Subaru... the thing is an absolute mountain goat in the snow. Economy is as good as my car: 25-30 MPG.

We looked into an Impreza wagon or Forester, but for the same price, we were looking at vehicle with over twice the miles and just about ready for major maintainces (timing belts).

The most versitile vehicle I think I've even seen was my dads Escalade EXT. 4 door with seating for 5. Drop the midgate and you could hold 4x8 sheets of drywall keeping them completely dry since the heard tonneau was still in place and the tailgate was closed.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:43 AM   #22
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They have their uses, but "daily driver" isn't one of them unless you need to keep your protection detail in the vehicle with you...
Not everyone can afford a "daily driver" and a 2nd vehicle for utility purposes.

Hence the advent of the SUV...duh
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:43 AM   #23
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Call them up, ask them if you and your sisters were little again if they would buy an SUV or a sedan.

Heck, they probably drive an SUV now, without you guys around...

THey had SUVs when I was a youngster, but they called em jeep cherokees and blazers.


Im not knocking on mid-sized suv (foresters blazers jeeps etc.) But does anyone seriously need an Yukon XLT sized vehicle?
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:45 AM   #24
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I had a 2 door Explorer before my WRX and loved it for what it was. It looked good, was pretty quick, great off road, mileage similar to the WRX, good ride height....

I only got rid of it because it was a POS Ford that had all kinds of stupid little problems.

I would buy another if it had better quality.
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Old 09-14-2005, 11:46 AM   #25
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I'd drive an SUV if I had a fuel efficient second car. I really like those new Jeep Commanders. Trucks are cool and even more useful. But I don't have a need right now for an SUV or a truck.
I think that C has a point in that they are good for hauling stuff, but unless you are a contractor, delivery person, or similar you do not need it as a daily driver. For the premium you are paying on the gas and cost vs technology (Most of them are engineered simply and crudely). You could own a cheap pickup for hauling and a civic for commuting.

As for the AWD, this is kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, but most people do not need the AWD. FWD with snows would easily accomplish what most of the snow belt needs for Winter traction. The AWD for the other 3 seasons just wastes gas.
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