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Old 05-10-2001, 10:06 PM   #1
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Post Ques? Any Problem's lowing on AWD???

I got a question for Low springs! if i go lower then 2 Inches do the AWD system will have problems???just want to know before i puchase any spring to low my impreza...and which site sale the resonlable price for spring!
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Old 05-10-2001, 10:27 PM   #2
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<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Larry, I've got my Impreza lowered about 2" (maybe more- I can't get my head under the front bumper anymore). The AWD system will not have any problems. If you go much lower than 2" you may need camber eccentric bolts or camber plates to correct the negative camber you will get, which would shred tires. H and R, 5Zigen, Tein- loads of people make lowering springs. Click on the "links" button off of the main navigation bar, and most any site you visit will have some- autocare subaru (iSR), Dale Teague, Cobb Tuning- they can all hook you up.

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Old 05-10-2001, 10:59 PM   #3
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Thanks For your Informations North,but could anyone tell me what is the perfect height which don't need the camber eccentric bolts or camber plates? i just don't like the gap showing between the fender and the tires,and i just to lower it perfectly.
And i find out that the my orig shocks and the OEM springs from the back of the height is lower then the front...
is that Normal!
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Old 05-10-2001, 11:10 PM   #4
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And i find out that the my orig shocks and the OEM springs from the back of the height is lower then the front...
is that Normal!
the car is not lower in the rear than the front! The fenders are different sizes! Your front tires have to turn, rembmer?
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Old 05-10-2001, 11:39 PM   #5
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I think anyone that loweres a subaru should be shot.

Buy a civic if looks is all you care about.
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Old 05-10-2001, 11:57 PM   #6
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I think anyone that loweres a subaru should be shot.
You are joking right? Just about any road prepped Impreza I have ever seen has been lowered.

Its sad to see such hatred towards another Subaru enthusiast.

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Old 05-11-2001, 12:26 AM   #7
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Hey Buck-O whats up with the shi11y repsonce, that was kind of useless if you ask me. are you a violent man do youlike to shoot people, did anyone hug you as a boy. Did you father forget to play catch with you. Did your mom lick a napkin and clean your face with it in public. Were you the stinky kid in class. All that built up anger is pretty much useless your not do any thing hlpful by going around bein a **** . hehe


Anyways you should have any problem lowering it 2 inches just make sure you dont change your tire sizes or if oyu change your rims make sure that they are the correct offset or they will rub.Hope i coudl be some help unlike other people.

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Old 05-11-2001, 12:33 AM   #8
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I kinda agree with Buck-O about lowering. I don't think anyone should be shot, but lowering an Impreza to 2" is kinda pointless. Even with aftermarket struts, wheel travel is hugely limited, roll centers get a messed up, tires rub, bumpers rip off, kidneys fail, under body scrapes, and worst of all, next time some gives you a hard time about having a Suby, you can't say. "Well mine kicks ass on gravel roads." Instead you will have to agree that your car handles like crap and reminds people of the countless Hondas running around. You might as well put a "VTEC INSIDE" sticker on your car, sit WAY to far down in your seat, and drive recklessly.
Ok I'm done. Sorry, I had to get that out. If you are gonna lower your car a bunch, at least get shorter struts too...it will help the ride quality. OR, you can get 17" rims w/o the super low profile tire to fill the gap in your wheel well. I have 16's and Rally, so I don't know exactly what size would be best to fill the gap.

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Old 05-11-2001, 12:51 AM   #9
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Thanks Guys for your suggestion! actually i have a set of 16" impreza OEM gold rim, i think these rims looks perfect on impreza...
Anyway, i just need to know what is the perfect height to fit on the rim that i got, so the gap won't show that much, any best deal around on any site right now..
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Old 05-11-2001, 01:15 AM   #10
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I have STi Ver 5 struts and whiteline springs. Inexpensive set up, lowers the car JUST enough to almost fill the gap. 205/55R16 on my golds right now, but I may go to 205/50R16 to stop the rubbing I get in hard corners. KYB AGX struts with Eibach springs is also a good buy. Adjustable too. Click the "Products" link for vendors of both kits. Also, what is your budget? What kind of driving do you do? That might chage things a bit....coil-overs are fun to mess with.
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Old 05-11-2001, 01:16 AM   #11
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How 'bout that. Larry posted a post, a flame war broke out, and he wasn't even in it! Larry, I think trouble just finds you dude.

Anyway. I try not to be too judgemental on anyone. That includes the stickered up rice boys. I try to follow the subieGal addige. If you can back up those stickers with mussle, more power to you.

As for you people and your opinions (that nobody asked for, he said how do i, not what is your opinion) on someone elses car, keep 'em to yourself. If you can't contribute to the discussion or don't like what someone does to their car too bad. keep it to yourself.


RallyImprezive, you do have some good point, but would it have been so hard to say, "you realize that your handling will suffer if you do this or that." instead of "your car handles like crap " You know what I mean. At least you had somethiing constructive to say.

Buck-o you just seem to be a lost cause.

Hey Buck-o, I'll be sure to check with you the next time I want to mod MY car, just to make sure it is ok with you. After all, I would hate to be shot.



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Old 05-11-2001, 01:48 AM   #12
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My Budget just for the springs is around between $150 and $200... How's the ride if i put on 1.6" for the front and 1.5" for the back, and dose it look little bit different (Low) by looking at the side of the car.
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Old 05-11-2001, 01:55 AM   #13
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If your going to lower a car do it properly. If your going to do it, use STi parts, at least you KNOW they will work properly and have had some thought put into them rather then the typical, Whoa that looks tiiiiiiight, engeniering concept.

2" is to much. theres no reason to drop ANY car that low. Especially an impreza. Its a rally bassed car, it deserves to be treated as one. Lowering it prety much basterdardizes (yes i spelled that right) the car. 1" is enough, 1.5 is the lowest praticle limit, 2" thats just wrong. Unusable, and really not worth it unless you plan on overhauling the whole suspension setup, and retuning the cars handling.

And what the hell is up with thi politicaly correct BS. OMFG im going to shoot some one through my computer...look out i might go Quake 3 on your ass!!! maybe i should start at random puttign the word "Columbine" in my posts just to give somone somthing else to whine about.

Good greif guys, thats kinda childish, especially your post scoobyruman, i havent been that "insulted" since the 3rd grade.
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Old 05-11-2001, 08:52 AM   #14
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So what is the price are range..STI where should i get them for good deal!
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Old 05-11-2001, 11:53 AM   #15
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Bastardizes not Basterdardizes...
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Old 05-11-2001, 11:54 AM   #16
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hahaha, no its basterdardizes...kinda an inside joke with some friends of mine...like i said i spelled it right, and i dont expect anyone to get it.
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Old 05-11-2001, 12:01 PM   #17
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whoa, this guy is asking for help. Not mudslingers. lets try to stay decent and mature.
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Old 05-11-2001, 12:42 PM   #18
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First off, I would like to apologize for my rude reaction. My reasoning behind all that was this: Hey bud, glad to help. PLEASE don't destroy your beautiful blue Subaru by lowering it a bunch! Instead, get the right set-up and discover just how well Subies can literally "cling" to the road in corners, and still retain good ride quality and functionality. "Function over Form"
Ok, here we go....$200 max...hmm. Maybe with that money you should get a rear sway bar? 20mm for an agressive turn-in, or 18mm if you are unsure what an "agressive turn-in" means. That will help keep you happy until you can afford some KYB AGX or STi Ver 5. I don't know a lot about the AGX but I assume that it will be the best bang for your buck. Cobb sells them for $425. You still need springs, but I am sure just about any big-name retailer can sell you the Eibach springs for a good price. Anyone have price quotes? I promise that if you are willing to wait, you will be very very happy that you did. I think Eibach springs lower about .75" Not a lot, but measure the tire/fender gap, and imagine 3/4 of an inch less..not bad.
I dunno, I seem to be totally backwards in my tuning approach but I make my car work well first, then style the car around my functional mods. I refuse to give up performance for looks. Besides, I can't afford a shiny new paint job, 18" wheels and tires, etc. Wow, that was along message for me. I hope it helps. Everyone feel free to contradict me, I always have stuff to learn.
But don't bug me about my spelling, I know it sucks.
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Old 05-11-2001, 12:57 PM   #19
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This photo says it all about why JUST lowering springs don't work well. Thank you Sport Compact Car!

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Old 05-11-2001, 03:17 PM   #20
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I think your looking for something like the H&R springs. I have them and it lowers it close to 2" IIRC. It looks sweet. Whiteline also has springs that drop around 2".
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Old 05-11-2001, 03:22 PM   #21
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I dunno, I seem to be totally backwards in my tuning approach but I make my car work well first, then style the car around my functional mods. I refuse to give up performance for looks.
HOLY SHNIKEYS!!! SOMEONE THAT GETS IT!!

*bows*

Thats the FIRST time ive ever heard someone on this board properly state the melding of tuning, with looks. Make it go fast, and then make the go fast look good going fast while doing somthing in the process...er...or somthing like that.

It should also be mention that if you go to a shorter shock, you NEED to have a lot higher bound and reboind rate to compensate for the shortened travel. Makes for a little rougher ride, but the benefits of the stiffer setup are emence, and easily noticable.
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Old 05-11-2001, 04:15 PM   #22
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Buck-o, didn't you just say that anyone who lowers their car should be shot. But now you seem to be espousing the idea of modifying the performance. Before you start cutting down people for their beliefs take a moment and think that maybe, just maybe, not everyone in this world is of the same opinion as you. If someone wants to drop their car purely for looks, so be it and all the best to him/her. This is a site for people to share ideas, not cut down (punn intended) other people. Constructive criticism. PMA (Positive Mental Attitude), give it a try.
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Old 05-11-2001, 04:25 PM   #23
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If you were on a budget would it be better if he started off with a 4-pack of struts? And would this lower the car any?
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Old 05-11-2001, 04:37 PM   #24
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how much do the V5 Struts/springs lower the car? I think Sugar is still selling the set for like $276 or something.

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tora, one of the things I like most about this board is that it's NOT the sort of place that will say, "whatever turns you on, dude" when someone is about to do something stupid. If you want to slam your car, get the latest SCC, curl up with the NOPI ad, and forget about the i-Club.

Buck-O is as abrasive as always, but is also making good points as always. The question was whether lowering an Impreza can cause problems. The answer is: yes it can, assuming you're actually going to drive the car as opposed to trailering it to compact car shows.

I couldn't care less what LarryMak's priorities are. It would be irresponsible not to warn him about the potential problems that result from "budget" lowering of a car.
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