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Old 08-22-2001, 02:11 PM   #1
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Default Anybody Have True Ram Air Intakes Available Yet?

A friend and I at one time were trying to design an effective Ram Air system that is fed from our hood scoops. At the same time I saw a few other people designing a similar product.

I have kind of given up on designing and selling my own setup because the cost and hassle of just making them would suck.

Anyway, I am very interested in buying a well planned Ram Air system for our cars. Has anyone produced or have plans for an effective Ram Air setup?

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Old 08-22-2001, 03:22 PM   #2
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from what I've seen...people have done some of their own make-shift ones... but nothing mainstream. Try 8complex...he has a Ram-air of sorts.
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Old 08-22-2001, 04:25 PM   #3
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I'm still working on mine it should be done soon and after I'm done with it I will start on making and selling them.
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Old 08-22-2001, 06:12 PM   #4
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Won't happen. Not "True" Ram Air anyway. You may develop an intake that gets fed from the hood scoop, but it won't be a ram air system. Myth. Search for Ram Air here and see what results you get. Aside from all that, even on a car like the GM F-bodies that use Ram Air, the intakes (and especially the scoops) are designed with that in mind. And even on those cars, with ~300HP, the "ram air" effect is good for ~6HP at 125+mph. Now, if that's all the factory can get from something specifically designed to do so, why could an individual do better?

You may get a great cold-air system drawing air from the scoop, but don't confuse it with a True Ram Air system.
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Old 08-23-2001, 01:17 AM   #5
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Brucelee - What would you do about water????

I had a dragon filter throttle body mounted, but got water onto it. Now I have a heat shielded cone filter (cloth not foam or paper) mounted on the throttle body being fed from the scoop.

My two cents about the f-bodies is they are really detuned vettes. You give them to much power and they begin to compete with each other. Car companies are usually not making engines to their full potential. If that was the case there would be no aftermarket accessories.

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Old 08-23-2001, 02:20 AM   #6
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try this.....

<img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/burninrubber/engineshot2.jpg"></img>

the welded version is coming soon. This intake, plus a couple of other parts, makes it spin in second gear running it hard. It can run over a bumpy road, in third, and it skips bumps like a high powered v8. You can romp it, spin a bit, then take off like a rocket. As in, it hits bumps, and spins the tires if you aren't careful. G
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Old 08-23-2001, 06:46 AM   #7
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there is something on ebay that looks amusing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=594600718

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=594570922

seems pretty cool. i dunno much about intakes and how to design a good one.
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Old 08-23-2001, 09:36 AM   #8
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That looks like a pretty cool idea on ebay.

I respect the guy for not call it Ram Air. It is sort of but the design would be too ineffective to create any psi.

What I mean is the design would have to be more like burninrubbers to be effective. Lets be optimistic and say that from a hood scoop fed Ram Air setup we can get 1 psi of boost. It would be more effective to have a direct feed to an open airbox like burnin, rather than have a weak flexible tube that can expand and contract under pressure.

Honestly to keep my expectations down the least an effectively designed ram air setup could do is provide cooler ambient air to the engine. Everybody knows that cool air produces more power and less chance of ping.

Burninrubber-Do you have any problem with rain? I have a design that would virtually eliminate the possibility of water damage to the engine even if you went through a large puddle.

I wish we lived a little closer. Then we could toss ideas around and really develope this thing.

My main problem is my MAF sensor. I think I have found a way to fit it safely into a ram air setup.

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Old 08-23-2001, 11:01 AM   #9
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"And even on those cars, with ~300HP, the "ram air" effect is good for ~6HP at 125+mph. "

Just checked GM's website its 15hp. I had a homade *ram-air intake* that reached positive intake manifold pressures at WOT at any speed. It was too damn loud though I had to take it off.
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Old 08-23-2001, 12:09 PM   #10
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adeck- How was your ram air setup designed. My design uses the rectangular filter with a big reseviour of cleaned air behind it so it will have air to produce torque from a standing start. I refuse to use a cone filter setup as they don't provide that reseviour of clean air behind it for producing torque like a rectangular setup would.

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Old 08-23-2001, 12:25 PM   #11
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You just hafta be mindful of those deep puddles. If you have the intake on there...it makes you paranoid of them. It does fine in a downpour, though. Now that we're getting good air here in Denver, I can spin the tires on the 1/2 shift. No headers, stock cats, stock engine, on 91 octane pump gas. I can also drive it just fine around 1500-2500rpm in fourth putting around neighborhoods. You never have to go below third to make it scoot. Time to go to the track. I can't wait for my flywheel, headers and cats. The instant power of an N/A car in the first three gears makes it fun. I still long for 14-18psi though. 12's or 14's...which do you think is more fun? Gary
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Old 08-23-2001, 12:33 PM   #12
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If your talking 1/4 mile times I would say 12s woudl be a lot more fun!!!!!!
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Old 08-23-2001, 12:54 PM   #13
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Try the Rallispec setup. The filter sits right under the pass. side hood vent, and the rest of the engine is "sealed" off, to keep the hot air from being sucked into the filter. It just sucks in purely cold air from the outside. Works for me! Got a 15.3 with it, no other mods (OK, a Brullen muffler, thats it)!
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