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Old 08-22-2001, 05:58 PM   #1
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OK....so heres the deal. Im soaking some rays down here in Panama City right now but I have bigger problems on my mind right now. When I drive my car for more then an hour and going through gears.. my clutch sticks to the floor...and then when it kind pops up.....getting into another gear is a task... Ive considered slave and master cylinder...but am really not sure. MY biggest problem is money... I dont have any. IM just wondering if any oif you could give me a few pointers and tips... thanks..

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Old 08-22-2001, 06:50 PM   #2
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I have had that exact problem intermittently for years!!

I had it in to the shop for servicing (warranty), and the shop was about to replace pretty much the entire clutch assembly -- even the pedals. They ordered the parts, but then refused to do the work later on (long story). As I thought it would've been overkill, unnecessary, and possibly damaging anyway, I was fine with that...

A couple months ago, I was talking to the mechanic at Troncalli, and he said he knew what it was: the clutch fluid was boiling. The reservoir sits right over the exhaust header, and it winds up overheating the fluid. He thought that a different clutch fluid might cure it, but, he hadn't tested it out yet, nor had anyone wanting to do it.

The problem will appear when you're not doing much moving. Don't lope along. And, just accept it -- for now.

My planned cure is to open up the scoop to let more cool air in, and more hot out...

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Old 08-22-2001, 06:52 PM   #3
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Drew, Funny but I had an experience for the first time last weekend where the clutch pedal wouldn't come all the way up, stopping about 3" down. Wondering if this is a precursor to your problem and wondering if anyone else has had or fixed such a problem.
And hey, try to enjoy that Panama City sun!! "Don't worry, Be Hoppy"!

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Old 08-22-2001, 06:54 PM   #4
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Eric, How about a heat shield for the reservoir?

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Old 08-22-2001, 06:55 PM   #5
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change the fluid to DOT4 or DOT5
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Old 08-22-2001, 09:14 PM   #6
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Where's legacyB4 - he had that issue.

Must be because he drives so sloooww...
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Old 08-22-2001, 10:54 PM   #7
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That is a problem I can't relate to...I am still trying to find my Clutch pedal!
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Old 08-22-2001, 11:24 PM   #8
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Had what sounds to be exactly the same problem intermittently for over a year and a half.

The condition was worst when the car was hot, the outside temperature was hotter, and you were sitting in stop and go traffic.

I had my clutch fluid upgraded from standard Subaru grade and despite doing this twice, I still had the problem. Luckily, I was still covered by warranty so this last month when it was really acting up, I dropped the car off at the dealer and they took a good, long look at it.

For me, it turned out to be as simple as replacing the clutch master cylinder and clean fluid. I was able to get by the rest of the summer without a single incident of loss of pedal feel or response.

Hope that helped.

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Old 08-23-2001, 01:28 AM   #9
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Hadnt heard of the boiling fluid idea. I would have to say it sounds like the clutch master cylinder. Theres a piston at the end of the brake pedal that forces the fluid into the clutch line. It has several o-rings which wear over time allowing the fluid to backup behind the piston causes loss of clutch pressure. It usually starts out by a loss of pressure then eventual total loss of pressure and clutch fluid leaking under the carpet in the interior. If you are totally losing pressure it is this or the slave cylinder. Slave cylinder is more obvious-just look at it. If its leaking its bad.
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Old 08-23-2001, 08:48 AM   #10
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<i>Nubaru</i> - Hmm. Hadn't thought about a heat shield... I'll look at doing that as well. Oh, and wrapping the line leading to the clutch as well. And, staying out of bumper-to-bumper traffic.

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Old 08-23-2001, 01:18 PM   #11
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i didn't know anyone else had this issue. it's been so long that i've forgotten about it. i had this problem the first day i drove the car off the lot. actually, i picked up my subie on a friday evening and heading up to the mountains for some boarding. halfway up the mountain...i was freaking out. my clutch apparently had given way and was stuck on the floor. there was absolutely zero pressure on the pedal.

needless to say, i was worried because i couldn't shift gears and i'm climbing up this single lane, mountain road with no shoulder to pull off to the side. (the shoulder would be the mountain side)

anyways, clutch response would come back, go away, come back, go away, and finally returned without any more issues. the following morning, i called my dealership, pissed off as hell, and they asked if i needed to get the car towed back. i said no cause it was working, but did drop it off as soon as i got back from the trip.

after the dealer examination, they found no issues (at least, that's what they told me) the problem has never resurfaced. to make a long story short, i never found out what the issue was, but, i couldn't entirely agree with the "boiling fluid" theory cause it was a real cold night when driving up the mountain.
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Old 08-23-2001, 03:38 PM   #12
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I've had itermittent difficulty shifting IN to a gear every now & then, but luckily the pedal hasn't stuck to the floor. Yikes, I wonder if the Imprezzas have the same issue? And hearing that a 3rd gen. Legacy (LegacyB4) had the problem isn't too comforting. jeez!
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Old 08-25-2001, 09:57 AM   #13
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Im glad im not the only one that has or has this problem. where do i look in the engine for the slave and master cylinder? What kind of tranny fluid should I be using. If I have to replace the master clutch cylinder, can i do it myself or is it very involved? I really need to get this fixed for it looks like I may be selling the scoob. I dont want to... I love Subarus...
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Old 08-27-2001, 08:13 AM   #14
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The clutch fluid reservoir is on the firewall, pretty much directly in front of the driver's seat. You can follow the fluid line to the top of the tranny to see where it all is.

I'd expect that changing out the reservoirs/cylinders would be a major PIA for all but the certified mechanics (and, I suspect that even they'd be grumbling quite a bit).

Okay, I am indeed speaking from my sphincter here, and have no further opinions to provide. Someone is bound to know of different grades of hydraulic clutch fluids.

Good luck, and let us know of your results.

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Old 08-27-2001, 05:12 PM   #15
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Id love to keep the car..But im planning on going back to school in Florida. After school, its a 2001 Legacy GT B4.........hehehehehe. Well ok maybe Im dreaming But I plan on florida State University. education or a sweet ass car. Tough decision
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