What?? Teh hondarslayer back in the AFI game??

Hondaslayer · 09-14-2005, 09:52 PM

Yep, Co-worker bought an old Minnam kit for his RS, so you guys will be seeing more of my traitor ass in here

So whats the new engine management of choice for the RS?

Any places to still buy a P&P harness for the Link plus?

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kgb · 09-15-2005, 12:01 PM

Link+ is dated but cheap - if you don't mind piggybacks, eManage and PerfectPower seems to do the job. Depends on whether you need OBD-II, I wouldn't remove the stock ECU at all. I just wish i-Speed made an RS-T reflash but they didn't...

Drac9 · 09-15-2005, 12:11 PM

Autronic here

White 2.5rs · 09-15-2005, 01:19 PM

P&P harnesses are very hard to find outside of the manufacturer
and QUITE expensive

its almost more cost effective to buy an emanage for what its worth

Hitokiri · 09-15-2005, 02:21 PM

emanage ultimate if you are going to get an emanage

Hondaslayer · 09-15-2005, 07:49 PM

I never liked the E-manage, I just have experience with the Link (and loved it)

He is considering a Hydra at this point.

What the hell is a Hydra??

DoctorNick · 09-15-2005, 07:53 PM

A local has a hydra on his RS. Seems to like it. Seems like the link is still the way to go. I keep hearing about this perfect power but don't know much about it.

Wish it was as easy as wireing in a wrx ecu and getting a reflash.

Andursun0013 · 09-15-2005, 08:43 PM

Hydra -- they can hook you up with a p&p harness -- I haven't had much time to play with mine yet to tell you how i like it but its good so far.

speed_freak27 · 09-15-2005, 10:44 PM

I vote for the link+ as well. A local guy just picked one up off rs25 for 500. Might look over there. I've heard good things about autronic as well but it's rather expensive.

P.S Why didn't you put a 3" downpipe w/ a wg dump on the car to begin with it would have saved me from having to have on fabricated.

shemoves · 09-16-2005, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondaslayer

What the hell is a Hydra??

1. Complete standalone ECU

2. multi-headed dragon

Hondaslayer · 09-16-2005, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speed_freak27

P.S Why didn't you put a 3" downpipe w/ a wg dump on the car to begin with it would have saved me from having to have on fabricated.

Pm SubEd for details

I wanted to run WRX and VF-series turbos on it.

8Complex · 09-16-2005, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondaslayer

What the hell is a Hydra??

www.hydraems.com

PDXTuning · 09-16-2005, 12:12 PM

Autronic for me

Ben

kgb · 09-16-2005, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speed_freak27

I vote for the link+ as well. A local guy just picked one up off rs25 for 500.

For a used one, it is a good deal if you don't care for OBD-II and you don't live in a place where climate changes drastically. That thing is just too big to allow for the stock ECU to run along side with it (to provide OBD-II). I hope the link+ is doing IAT corrections because my Link-1 certainly doesn't (unless I upgrade to version 5 and get their IAT since it says it can't use the stock IAT

)

I guess there are still a few RS-Ts running around with Link+ and doing OK.

DoctorNick · 09-16-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shemoves

1. Complete standalone ECU

2. multi-headed dragon

imp2.5 · 09-16-2005, 11:06 PM

I have a hydra. I love it, autotune, closed loop is really easy to control and set up. But it's all up to you, go with what you know

PunKidd · 09-21-2005, 05:33 PM

I'm still running the Link + as well, but I've been trying to find a PNP harness w/ little luck. I want to start developing an RS-T reflash, but I need to be able to swap back and fourth easly and right now it's hardwired in. Let me know if you find anyone who still has them in stock.
-Jared.

kgb · 09-21-2005, 08:33 PM

Actually, who can obtain the plugs for both side (stock ECU and stock harness)? I suppose those plugs are expensive enough that I shouldn't bother trying to make my own PnP harness? Those PnP harness are getting awful hard to find used, let alone new

PunKidd · 09-21-2005, 10:42 PM

The Link Side comes w/ the link. If you feel like picking up a stock ECU from the junk yard you can get the other end that way.
If anyone is going to do this, let me know & I'll try and dig up the pin out I had for a PNP harness a few years back. It's not hard to piece togeather, but I had it in excell format, and if the work has been done why repeat. It's been tested, so you know it will work on the first shot.
-Jared

kgb · 09-22-2005, 03:06 PM

So that's how the plugs are made - junk yard ECU and harness. I just wish someone in the plastic industry can clone those and not get sued

PunKidd · 09-22-2005, 08:01 PM

There was a guy on here back in 01 or 02 that knew where to get them in bulk from a supplier. He had to buy them in min qty of 1,000, and I don’t know if he ever got them or not. I’m sure they can be sourced, it’s just easier to hit up a wrecking yard.
And you only need the ECU side beings you plug the PNP harness into your existing chassis harness.
-Jared.

kgb · 09-23-2005, 02:08 AM

Unless of course you need to run Parallel Engine Management with the stock ECU

PunKidd · 09-23-2005, 11:31 AM

Parallel??? I guess you could use both sides of the harness if you planed to run a piggy back w/ the stock ECU, but the PNP harnesses were typically so that you can swap your stock ECU out w/ a stand alone w/o any cutting or soldering

kgb · 09-23-2005, 12:55 PM

Yes, for something like a Link+ that can handle everything in the car, I can see that you can go without the stock ECU. Except no aftermarket ECU supports OBD-II, and I certainly don't want a blown motor during smog check running the stocker

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Drac9 Scooby Specialist Member#: 9861 Join Date: Sep 2001 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Colorado Springs, CO Vehicle: 1999 2.35 RS-T w/NOS Hybrid Rally Blue Pearl	Autronic here

09-15-2005, 01:19 PM	#4
White 2.5rs Scooby Guru Member#: 39936 Join Date: Jul 2003 Vehicle: 99RS TWE&SCAT EJ257 Hydra+HMist+PPG+35R=DEATH	P&P harnesses are very hard to find outside of the manufacturer and QUITE expensive its almost more cost effective to buy an emanage for what its worth

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Hitokiri Scooby Specialist Member#: 2604 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: CA Vehicle: 1999 2.5RSt RBP	emanage ultimate if you are going to get an emanage

09-15-2005, 07:49 PM	#6
Hondaslayer the artiest Moderator Member#: 4562 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Auburn, WA Vehicle: 1998 Forester,lifted 95 Legacy,75 VW Westfalia	I never liked the E-manage, I just have experience with the Link (and loved it) He is considering a Hydra at this point. What the hell is a Hydra??

09-15-2005, 07:53 PM	#7
DoctorNick NASIOC Supporter Member#: 7022 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Chicago, Il. Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Limited SWP	A local has a hydra on his RS. Seems to like it. Seems like the link is still the way to go. I keep hearing about this perfect power but don't know much about it. Wish it was as easy as wireing in a wrx ecu and getting a reflash.

09-15-2005, 08:43 PM	#8
Andursun0013 Scooby Specialist Member#: 11616 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Coweta, OK Vehicle: 1998 2.35RS-T 2006 Baja 2007 Leg. Wagon	Hydra -- they can hook you up with a p&p harness -- I haven't had much time to play with mine yet to tell you how i like it but its good so far.

09-15-2005, 10:44 PM	#9
speed_freak27 Scooby Specialist Member#: 30798 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: kansas city ks Vehicle: 2001 RS-T Hybrid 2.5>2.2T>257>2.35S	I vote for the link+ as well. A local guy just picked one up off rs25 for 500. Might look over there. I've heard good things about autronic as well but it's rather expensive. P.S Why didn't you put a 3" downpipe w/ a wg dump on the car to begin with it would have saved me from having to have on fabricated.

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PDXTuning NASIOC Vendor Member#: 49831 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: www.pdxtuning.com Vehicle: 2008 Get Tuned Now Knowledge is Power	Autronic for me Ben

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imp2.5 Scooby Newbie Member#: 11354 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Eagan, MN Vehicle: 2009 LGT BF3 tag: Snbrd4evr	I have a hydra. I love it, autotune, closed loop is really easy to control and set up. But it's all up to you, go with what you know

09-21-2005, 05:33 PM	#17
PunKidd Scooby Specialist Member#: 8533 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin TX Vehicle: 2002 2.5 RS-T LudeSpeed S. III W/ FMIC	I'm still running the Link + as well, but I've been trying to find a PNP harness w/ little luck. I want to start developing an RS-T reflash, but I need to be able to swap back and fourth easly and right now it's hardwired in. Let me know if you find anyone who still has them in stock. -Jared.

09-21-2005, 08:33 PM	#18
kgb Scooby Specialist Member#: 1366 Join Date: Apr 2000 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Delta, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2000 RS-T -> RSTi-8 Blue Ridge Pearl	Actually, who can obtain the plugs for both side (stock ECU and stock harness)? I suppose those plugs are expensive enough that I shouldn't bother trying to make my own PnP harness? Those PnP harness are getting awful hard to find used, let alone new

09-21-2005, 10:42 PM	#19
PunKidd Scooby Specialist Member#: 8533 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin TX Vehicle: 2002 2.5 RS-T LudeSpeed S. III W/ FMIC	The Link Side comes w/ the link. If you feel like picking up a stock ECU from the junk yard you can get the other end that way. If anyone is going to do this, let me know & I'll try and dig up the pin out I had for a PNP harness a few years back. It's not hard to piece togeather, but I had it in excell format, and if the work has been done why repeat. It's been tested, so you know it will work on the first shot. -Jared

09-22-2005, 03:06 PM	#20
kgb Scooby Specialist Member#: 1366 Join Date: Apr 2000 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Delta, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2000 RS-T -> RSTi-8 Blue Ridge Pearl	So that's how the plugs are made - junk yard ECU and harness. I just wish someone in the plastic industry can clone those and not get sued

09-22-2005, 08:01 PM	#21
PunKidd Scooby Specialist Member#: 8533 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin TX Vehicle: 2002 2.5 RS-T LudeSpeed S. III W/ FMIC	There was a guy on here back in 01 or 02 that knew where to get them in bulk from a supplier. He had to buy them in min qty of 1,000, and I don’t know if he ever got them or not. I’m sure they can be sourced, it’s just easier to hit up a wrecking yard. And you only need the ECU side beings you plug the PNP harness into your existing chassis harness. -Jared.

09-23-2005, 02:08 AM	#22
kgb Scooby Specialist Member#: 1366 Join Date: Apr 2000 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Delta, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2000 RS-T -> RSTi-8 Blue Ridge Pearl	Unless of course you need to run Parallel Engine Management with the stock ECU

09-23-2005, 11:31 AM	#23
PunKidd Scooby Specialist Member#: 8533 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin TX Vehicle: 2002 2.5 RS-T LudeSpeed S. III W/ FMIC	Parallel??? I guess you could use both sides of the harness if you planed to run a piggy back w/ the stock ECU, but the PNP harnesses were typically so that you can swap your stock ECU out w/ a stand alone w/o any cutting or soldering

09-23-2005, 12:55 PM	#24
kgb Scooby Specialist Member#: 1366 Join Date: Apr 2000 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Delta, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2000 RS-T -> RSTi-8 Blue Ridge Pearl	Yes, for something like a Link+ that can handle everything in the car, I can see that you can go without the stock ECU. Except no aftermarket ECU supports OBD-II, and I certainly don't want a blown motor during smog check running the stocker