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Old 09-23-2005, 06:20 PM   #1
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I bought a Megan Racing Exhaust for 05 2.5RS it has like a 2.5" inlet and a 3.5" outlet Carbon Fiber shell and Titanium burned tip. The only gripe I have with the exhaust is that the tip is riveted on instead of welded. I got a muffler shop to make a 2.5" cat-back for me and it sounds so shweeet. Ill see if I can post some sound and video clips on streetfire.net or something. Right now I do have pics. Next is a Borla Header and Injen CAI. Then rims and suspension. After that and the warranty goes out, Im gonna drop bout 20 grand down for a new engine from COBB, turbo, standalone ecu, and better drivetrain parts. ULTIMATE SLEEPER (Till you see the FMIC....LOL)
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Old 09-23-2005, 06:36 PM   #2
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[quote=Scubiesteve25RS Im gonna drop bout 20 grand down for a new engine from COBB, turbo, standalone ecu, and better drivetrain parts. [/QUOTE]

um those cars cost like 20 grand to buy
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Old 09-23-2005, 06:39 PM   #3
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um those cars cost like 20 grand to buy
That is my car and I paid $18,300. I know 20 grand is alot to spend but I wanna go big.
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Old 09-23-2005, 06:53 PM   #4
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ok so sell yours, take 20 grand, buy an sti get a black front mount, rs hood and trunk, paint brembos, uk silver wheels walla

alot smarter than what you want to do
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:10 PM   #5
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So true... there are a couple of guys on here who have sleeper STi's that look like RS's. They trade trunks & hoods with RS guys, then get FMICs too. Same price, and less of a headache than what you're planning...

Don't get me wrong though, I'd consider a fully built Cobb engine too, but remember that you've got a lot more things to pour money into... more power means you need better brakes and better suspension, better tires, etc etc etc. You'd spend more than the price of the STi, just getting it to handle the same and brake the same, on top of the power mods... but I mean sure, you'll be faster in a straight line...
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Old 09-23-2005, 08:10 PM   #6
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this has been argued so many times....

I think the motor buildup would be wise to get alot more horsepower reliably than an STi but the drivetrain of the RS will have to be upgraded to hold that much power. The Differentials, axles, and tranny will hafta be upgraded to be able to reliably hold that power. all that could cost anywhere between 5000-10000... so do the math. Cobb heads n shortblock together are like 5000-10000 (10000 being stage 3 long block) then the STi tranny is like 4000 and some axles n new diffs i have no idea but i'll ball park about 4000 atleast, and lets say you go with a spring/strut combo for like 700 then some decent big brakes that run around 1000-2000. SO all in all around 15-20k would be the amount to spend to make it reliably, safely VERY fast and great handling. 15-20k + 18300 is about 33-37k which is a lil more than the price for a stock STi new... but you'd be much faster with probably a higher redline and better aftermarket parts.... but fact still remains its still NO STi.

Plus thats not including labor or the turbo/intercooler/ECU parts either. I say go for it if you got the money.
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Old 09-23-2005, 08:33 PM   #7
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That is the biggest waste of money. You have to see that. You could sell the RS and get an STI and do much more work and get 2 times the power for a lot less. There is far to much to upgrade on the RS. Either keep the RS and just do a N/A build up or sell it and get the STI. You're not keeping it real but building up the car a little at a time. You're just wasting a whole lot of money. That is road you really don't want to go down. You really really really don't want to go there.

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Old 09-23-2005, 08:38 PM   #8
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The tip is rivetted on because you can't weld carbon fiber.
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:44 PM   #9
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Dont listin to the guys telling you to go buy an STI unless you like paing 3-5 grand a year on insurance ...If you could do most of this work yourself this is the smartest and cheapest way of doing it...I like having money left over to mod it . With the right build,they can kill an STI. In the end we'll see!!!
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:54 PM   #10
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My god... This is exactly why I should not visit the N/A forum a lot.

Yes, insurance is killer on an STI. True true! However, just like Caplin 2.5 said, as well as Migo said, you can't just throw in a built engine with a 2.5 driveline. There is a LOT more that is required to move that power efficiently and SAFELY.

And why in the HELL would you buy borla headers and a cobb CAI when you're gonna get rid of it all for a built Cobb engine/turbo?

W T F? Save your money man. Just wait for the warranty to die, THEN unload some money.

I really hope you just have gobs of money to waste. And if that's so, buy a freaking STI and use that extra money for insurance and make it LOOK like an RS. It's far more intelligent and you'll get the exact same effect.

And like Migo said, "You'd spend more than the price of the STi, just getting it to handle the same and brake the same, on top of the power mods... but I mean sure, you'll be faster in a straight line..."

Completely, utterly true. There have been countless 2.5RS buyers who think it's more logical and cost-effective to "go all out." Most of them realize that's a pipe-dream.

If ya got the money to waste (and a WASTE it shall be in terms of what you'll get in comparison to an STI stock), then enjoy! Go unique and savor it! Otherwise, save some dough for something else and go with an easier approach.

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Dont listin to the guys telling you to go buy an STI unless you like paing 3-5 grand a year on insurance ...If you could do most of this work yourself this is the smartest and cheapest way of doing it...I like having money left over to mod it . With the right build,they can kill an STI. In the end we'll see!!!
Quick comment. Sorry to complain again Boom04rs25 , but if he's gonna DUMP another 20 grand into an RS, I don't think he'd have to worry about insurance on an STI. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong.

I still don't understand the logic of these people who buy an RS and hope to dump thousands upon thousands into it to get near an STI's performance. Just don't get it.


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Old 09-23-2005, 10:59 PM   #12
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My god... This is exactly why I should not visit the N/A forum a lot.

Yes, insurance is killer on an STI. True true! However, just like Caplin 2.5 said, as well as Migo said, you can't just throw in a built engine with a 2.5 driveline. There is a LOT more that is required to move that power efficiently and SAFELY.

And why in the HELL would you buy borla headers and a cobb CAI when you're gonna get rid of it all for a built Cobb engine/turbo?

W T F? Save your money man. Just wait for the warranty to die, THEN unload some money.

I really hope you just have gobs of money to waste. And if that's so, buy a freaking STI and use that extra money for insurance and make it LOOK like an RS. It's far more intelligent and you'll get the exact same effect.

And like Migo said, "You'd spend more than the price of the STi, just getting it to handle the same and brake the same, on top of the power mods... but I mean sure, you'll be faster in a straight line..."

Completely, utterly true. There have been countless 2.5RS buyers who think it's more logical and cost-effective to "go all out." Most of them realize that's a pipe-dream.

If ya got the money to waste (and a WASTE it shall be in terms of what you'll get in comparison to an STI stock), then enjoy! Go unique and savor it! Otherwise, save some dough for something else and go with an easier approach.

Good luck.
here we go again.................words of advice scubiesteve,dont mention aftermarket turbos in the N/A forum cuzz a bunch of negative non-do it yourselfers have a bunch of crap to say about it....if you beleive it you can do it!!!!

Edit:My idea's are for do it yourselfers.....a built cobb motor isnt exactly cost effective do it yourself....so ill agree with that anyways

PS +1 to steve for thinking outside the box

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Old 09-23-2005, 11:16 PM   #13
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:40 PM   #14
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Scoobiesteve25rs, you do whatever you want with your car and money. Sometimes people need to learn by doing. Good luck and I hope it turns out exactly how you thought it should.
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Let me start by saying that your new exhaust looks nice. I likey.

Now about all the arguments of power and what is more cost effective. Yeah it's way cheaper to just start with an STi and go from there. Do you have to? No. It's your money you can do whatever the hell you want. If you want to drop 20k on a built cobb motor and a bunch of other things go ahead. The motor will be quite strong, and able to make more than a stock STI motor, but porbably won't be as reliable. If you were to build an STi you could probably buy the car and have 400whp or more for about 40k. But, again, it's your money do what you want. If you want 500+whp then a cobb motor is way better, but you will need lots of other stuff for the whole car to handle all that power, and will probably need more than 20k in the long run.

It's funny how people have a bad habbit of telling other people how to spend their money, and what is considered a waste and what is not. Not long ago people kept saying N/A subaru builds were a hughe waste of money, and they would never make any power. Just recently though TWE built a 300chp RS. Yeah a lot of subaru guys will tell you thats not a lot of power, and you could go way further with a swap and bolt ons and see way more power, but the point is that someone like me, and a lot of other guys would be more than happy driving a car with anywhere between 160awhp, and 220awhp. I don't need to have the most power and be the fastest car to have a good time driving my car.
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:32 AM   #16
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OK the thing is, I BOUGHT THIS CAR FOR A PROJECT CAR......I DONT WANT TO START OUT WITH 300HP and pay for a turbo and all that other **** if its gonna come straight out any way and I'd like to have the luxary of having cheaper insurance when I dont have to pay 600 a month. And I plan on making over 400 at the wheels. Any where from 425-475WHP would suffice. And I'm gonna do this by myself except maybe having my standalone tuned. But yes ultimately the STi would have been a better choice, but I dont have all the extra weight an STi has, I can start from scratch and end up with something that I'm proud of, and insurance is alot cheaper. Hell Ill be happy with 380HP.

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Old 09-24-2005, 03:34 AM   #17
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I learned the hard way with my WRX that no matter how much you mod, you just don't end up with as nice a driving product as an STi. So I sold the WRX and just bought an STi. Enjoy your RS, save your money for a large down on an STi.
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The trans, brakes, heads and diffs are worth the price of admission to me and a stock block in STi will take 380 if tuned correctly.
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As you guys saying I need an STi....Im still going to replace parts...I dont need a 6-speed tranny, Im going for 1/4mile and maybe autocross. The stock brakes would work, and I'd probably swap the suspension for a Tein Super Flex w/EDFC. Swap out the block and turbo, clutch, I mean I could go on and on and basically everything I'm doing now.....So why spend the extra $10,000 or so if I'm gonna strip it down the same as my RS and build it back up. The stock block can only handle upto 400HP reliably on an STi so if I ever wanted to go higher Ill have to buy a new block anyway. Oh and the reason for the header and Injen CAI is that I still have 33,000 miles till my warranty is up, quite a ways off.

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You're going to need that 6 speed tranny tho. Once you get over 300 HP your RS tranny is going to be toast. You'll need all need drive line. New rear end new drive shafts etc. You WILL need new brakes. No doubt. If you have over 300HP you have to have big brakes. This will not be an autoX car. Maybe 1/4 mile car but scoobys aren't really made for that...

This has disaster written all over it if you really follow thru.

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Uhhgh 40k dollars worth of car with stock RS brakes and TEIN FLEX's UHHHHHHUUGHHHH!!!
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You're going to need that 6 speed tranny tho. Once you get over 300 HP your RS tranny is going to be toast. You'll need all need drive line. New rear end new drive shafts etc. You WILL need new brakes. No doubt. If you have over 300HP you have to have big brakes. This will not be an autoX car. Maybe 1/4 mile car but scoobys aren't really made for that...

This has disaster written all over it if you really follow thru.

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Uhhgh 40k dollars worth of car with stock RS brakes and TEIN FLEX's UHHHHHHUUGHHHH!!!
Cox your wrong about most of the things you point out......stick to what you do know......look up this subject before you start downing it

Steve, The price diffrence between our RS's and STI sticker is about 16k then theres the 20k diffrence they will pay in insurance over the corse of there 5 year loan!!!! We'll be the one's laugh'n at the finsh line"if your not allready",no worries

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Old 09-24-2005, 09:01 AM   #22
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Im going with a dogbox tranny prolly, and either willwood or cobb big brake kit....I know what I need...you dont have to try to persuade me to get a STi, I mean yea if you want a good stock vehicle I'd get one but I DIDNT BUY MY RS TO KEEP IT STOCK , I KNEW WHAT MY PLAN WAS BEFORE I BOUGHT IT. I'M DOING THIS TO SAY THAT I DID IT AND I DIDNT PAY SOME OVER CHARGING BASTARD TO DO IT. You guys in your STi's can piss and moan all you want saying this is gonna turn out crap or not as good as a stock STi, but I mean what do you have to go by...NOT MUCH. I'm doing this to please me and only me, this is my hobby and passion (working on cars), I grew up in a garage. So if you have nothing better to do than crap on my post and thoughts, DONT POST IN THIS THREAD PLEASE....SIMPLE AS THAT. Now for those that actually put thought in it and added your .02 or tried helping me out thankyou.
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Nothing on this car within the drivetrain, brakes, suspension, engine, ecu, is staying stock....I shoulda explained what exactly I was going to do, I mean I figured you guys would have taken me smarter than that. Well N/M all you guys see is a noob trying to soup up a RS...ughh oh well. We will see when I post time slips and dyno pulls whos BSing.
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You're going to need that 6 speed tranny tho. Once you get over 300 HP your RS tranny is going to be toast. You'll need all need drive line. New rear end new drive shafts etc. You WILL need new brakes. No doubt. If you have over 300HP you have to have big brakes. This will not be an autoX car. Maybe 1/4 mile car but scoobys aren't really made for that...

This has disaster written all over it if you really follow thru.

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Uhhgh 40k dollars worth of car with stock RS brakes and TEIN FLEX's UHHHHHHUUGHHHH!!!
I was talking bout if I bought a STOCK STi what I would still change out and keep, nothing about that was about my RS....Im just saying if I had an STi I would still have to tear down, replace, and rebuild......
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Listen guys I know I haven't been on here long but if there is one thing I do know it's that some people just like to rebuild their cars to make them unique and so they can be behind that wheel no matter what they're doing (just driving, doing a 1/4 mile run, autoxing...whatever) and be able to say "damn....i built this" and to think about all the hard work they put in and actually enjoy that result. It doesn't always have to be about making the fastest car ya know.

Even as much as I know we all love fast cars.
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