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Old 09-25-2005, 01:36 AM   #1
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Default What alignment specs is everyone running on pinks and top hats??

I am pretty sure the alignment shop set it at near 0 for camber and toe. Now my car steering feels loose and not as responsive. What is everyone running the toe and camber for everyday driving occational track use thanks.

Some other suggestions on how to stiffen up my steering and responsiveness would be appreciated.
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Old 09-25-2005, 02:21 AM   #2
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I have pinks and stock top plates. I run the max negative front camber, which for my car is -.8. This handles far better than the stock 0 degrees, although I would prefer more. I am quite interested in the Race Comp top plates.

IMO, my comfort ALK (anti lift kit from Whiteline) improved the feedback from the front end significantly (more than the Pinks did, but about equal to the camber change).

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Old 09-25-2005, 03:40 AM   #3
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When I had my sti pink struts and sti pink springs I was able to get -1.5 on both the front and rear with 0 deg toe on all 4 corners. Most people run 1 to .5 deg neg less on the rear.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:30 AM   #4
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i just got an alignment done last week and im at -1.5 rear and -.75 front. the front felt off so i took it down for an alignment. one wheel was -.2 and the other was -.6 it feels much better now.
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Old 09-25-2005, 11:20 AM   #5
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So you guys think a -1.0 degree camber on all 4 corners and 0 toe would be good. Just trying to get a happy medium without excessive tire wear, however i would sacrifice to get my handling back.
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Old 09-25-2005, 11:47 AM   #6
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If you don't have plates or bolts your limited to what you can get w/ the oe setup. The STi seem to be only getting -0.8 to -1.0 (Wrx's are getting close to -1.3 w/ the oe eccentric bolts).

I'd have them maximize your front camber- while still maintaining 0 cross camber (be sure they loosen the lower bolt as well- this is a very common error on the part of the alignment techs).

Your rear has no adj, so either live w/ the -1.3ish on the rear or get bolts.

If your toe is 0 (again insure you emphasize the importance of 0 cross toe to the tech, as well as camber) you'll have little to no issue w/ tire wear. Make sure your air pressures are monitered closely, rotate regularily and you'll enjoy good wear.
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Old 09-25-2005, 06:17 PM   #7
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I am kinda stupid when it comes to suspension talk. Are you saying i should negative out the camber as much as it will go and try and keep the toe at 0. It seems like to me when i put the top hats on there my steering felt "looser". I know i am running PS2's which has a softer tire wall than the stock bridgestones but come on, the responsiveness seems to have decreased. What can i do working with the pink and top hats without spending an ass of money.

I know i have to be sacrificing some handleing with everything dialed in at 0 degrees.
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Old 09-26-2005, 03:16 AM   #8
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Yeah, tire pressure is key most of the time . Pay close attention to that.

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"I'd have them maximize your front camber- while still maintaining 0 cross camber (be sure they loosen the lower bolt as well- this is a very common error on the part of the alignment techs)."

BigSky, what is the definition of "cross camber" ?? I guess it is the differece between Left camber and that of the right side?
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<----running factory alignment and factory top hats with pinks.
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:58 AM   #11
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When my friend had pinks he was running -2.5 up front and -1.5 in the rear with o toe. Handled quite well. This was on an 04 sti.
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Yes maxmize the front camber w/ the oe bolts (while maintaining a 0 or close to 0 cross camber).

Spec C- correct - cross camber (or toe for that matter) is the difference between camber settings left and right- should be as close to 0 as possible (same w/ toe f/r).

Thus if the tech can get -1.1 on one side, but only -0.8- drop the one side to -0.8 so they are even. A tenth difference is fine on camber, but it shouldn't be much more than a tenth side to side IMO.
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Ok, Will keep my eye on that. Thanks : )
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Old 09-27-2005, 06:16 AM   #14
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I'm running the factory STi specs on my setup.
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Old 09-27-2005, 08:08 AM   #15
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I'm running the factory STi specs on my setup.
ouch, that sucks. Get rid of those stock alignment settings. They suck.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:53 PM   #16
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Yeah I would agree... I had to run aftermarket camber bolts to get the -2.5... but they were able to get -1.7ish out of the front. The rear was always -1.5.

But yes... go away from the factory specs, there is so much variance built in, that you could have a half degree or more of cross camber. ack!
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Old 09-27-2005, 05:09 PM   #17
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Not to go off topic or anything but.....

How do you guys like the pinks with the group n tophats? Is the bouncyness still there? I have a set of 04 sti takeoffs and i think they are a bit too bouncy for daily driving. Im looking for a alternate spring/tophat combo to try to relieve this..THANKS
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Old 09-28-2005, 12:31 AM   #18
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Default Rear oe camber specs/adjustments

I have read alot of post regarding alignment and many say that the rear camber is not adjustable w/ stock parts, but also have read posts w/ many different rear camber settings w/ 0 toe. Does the different numbers come from car to car or is the rear adjustable in some way [toe changes,lowering springs, etc]. I want to get my car aligned but want to be clear w/ my shop as to what I want. My car is stock now but will be getting springs in the spring.

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