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Old 09-26-2005, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Sealant for Camshaft cap

Here's what I'm looking at in the service manual:



Do I just use any rendom gasket dressing or is there anything in particular I need to use?

Do I just squirt it down and fill the little channel for it?
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Old 09-26-2005, 03:16 PM   #2
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Subaru does not specify a suitable alternative to Fuji ThreeBond 1280B. It needs to be applied as described.
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:16 PM   #3
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Well hell, the dealership is a 2 hour drive one way. I find it hard to believe there's nothing I can get from the local parts store that'll work.
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:20 PM   #4
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permatex makes some stuff called "the right stuff". It is damn good. I highly recommend it.
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:13 AM   #5
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Bump, which is better for this purpose?
  1. Permatex Right Stuff
  2. Permatex Ultra Grey
  3. 3M Ultrapro 08672

Service manual is confusing, it calls to use the same liquid gasket (Three Bond 1215) for the both the top and bottom mating cap surfaces, but the factory installed a black sealant for the head to cap side (bottom of cap), and a grey sealant for the cap to rocker side (top of cap).

Also, same question for oil separator plate on block, factory sealant is very rigid, looking for equivalent to 1217G.

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Old 11-30-2013, 11:41 AM   #6
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I use Ultra Grey for everything. No problems.....ever.


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Old 11-30-2013, 11:44 AM   #7
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I also use ultra gray for everything.
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Subaru does not specify a suitable alternative to Fuji ThreeBond 1280B. It needs to be applied as described.
That is not entirely correct. Please refer to TSB 01-167-08R Recommended Materials (All Vehicles).
3M™ Ultrapro™ High Temp Silicone Gasket 08672 Black is a suitable alternative for ThreeBond 1280B as well as 1105, 1207C, 1215, 1217B, and 1217G.
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^Thanks for posting, FYI TSB was issued on 2012, SubyTechMaster made that comment 7 years prior to the TSB being issued.

Wow, the 3M seems to be da good stuff, replacing all 6 OEM ThreeBond products.

Here is the TSB: http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html, Input 2012 Impreza, Chemicals/Antifreeze/Additives.

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Old 12-01-2013, 11:04 AM   #10
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^Thanks for posting, FYI TSB was issued on 2012, SubyTechMaster made that comment 7 years prior to the TSB being issued.

Wow, the 3M seems to be da good stuff, replacing all 6 OEM ThreeBond products.

Here is the TSB: http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html, Input 2012 Impreza, Chemicals/Antifreeze/Additives.

One of these days I will look at these post dates ;-)
The 3M does not give you the extra working time some of the FujiBonds do, but it does the job.
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How long working time approx? 5 minutes/10 minutes?

Does it come with a dispensing cone tip? Any tips to ensure even bead, uniform cross section? Icing/Marinate syringe dispenser maybe? Sealant dispenser?



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Old 12-01-2013, 12:15 PM   #12
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The Ultra Grey working time is approximately 10minutes, depending on room temperature and part temperature. The tubes come with a bead producing cap, though I've gotten into the habit of using my finger to make a thin film on the parts and minimize creeping when they are joined. I find it important particularly when doing internal motor work as blobs of sealant squeezed out from joints can break off and create problems with oiling.

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That's my concern, not enough coverage and you have a leak, too much and you get to buy a new engine. I hate liquid gaskets, wish everything had gaskets.
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Old 12-01-2013, 03:35 PM   #14
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+1 with Storm.The black is about the same. Squeeze the tube before you open it to see if it is mushy or hard. When I had to get some (rush warranty repair) our vendor sent 3 factory sealed tubes that had hardened on the shelf. Apparently not a great shelf life.

I have a steel butterfly handle that slides over the end of the tube you use to roll the tube up. Seems like I got it with a tube of Kia FIPG when I put a timing cover on a V6 for our body shop.
I use a caulk gun for ThreeBond products.
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