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Old 09-28-2005, 03:07 PM   #1
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Default ?Fair to compare Tribeca w/ Pilot or Highlander?

I'm looking to move to something bigger than my 2002 Eclipse (growing family) and I just took a test drive of the Tribeca yesterday.

Overall I was pretty impressed with the comfort, amenities, and quietness. I was disappointed with the around town power (lack of low-end torque).

I liked the Highlander too; though it doesn't feel as smooth as the Tribeca and doesn't come with as many standard amenities. However, it does seem to have more low-end torque.

I have yet to drive the Pilot but I've heard that it has plenty of low-end torque and the EX trim level comes the closest to having the same standard options as the Tribeca.

Here are the prices on these three when comparably equipped. (MSRP/Base Invoice) I tried to match the Highlander and Pilot to the Tribeca because it comes with the most standard options.

Highlander V6 4X4 w/3rd Row: $33,134 / $24,553
Pilot EX 4WD: $31,963 / $27,097
Tribeca 5-passenger: $31,665 / $28,517

So are these vehicles in the same class?
What are the major choosing points between the three (aside from personal taste in appearance)?
Which will give me the best value?

Lastly, is anyone concerned about the Tribeca being underpowered? Or is it just underpowered below 4000RPM?
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:51 PM   #2
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I would say they are in the same class...i'd ditch the highlander and look at the pilot and the Tribeca. The Highlander is too expensive for what it is.

I personally "like" the Tribeca better. I like the interior, handling, and smoothness. Don't make a decision until you drive the pilot. It's bigger and more powerful. It's also a lot rougher and feels more tipsy. The interior seems cheap compared the Tribeca.

I like the power on Pilot and the ride and handling of the Tribeca. I don't think you'd go wrong either way. Just depends on what you like.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:02 PM   #3
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Don't let the low price of Highlander fool you. When you equip a Highlander with all the options that are standard on Tribeca, it comes out more expensive than Tribeca. A fully loaded Highlander is about $39k.

The engine on Tribeca is the weakest among its peers. However,for what it intends for, a family cruiser, it's just fine.
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:23 PM   #4
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Thanks for the feedback.

I created a compairson sheet today of all the standard features that were important to me. The Tribeca had 28, the Pilot 22, and the Highlander had 11.

By the time you add similar features onto the Highlander, it costs much more than the Tribeca.

I guess the most important factors to me are a smooth, quiet ride with enough power to get up the mountains or around the freeways.

I know all my snowboarding college buddies had plenty of climbing power in their Outbacks, but can the Tribeca get around the mountains without too much trouble?
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:19 AM   #5
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I own a Tribeca. I wish it had more guts for the mileage it gets.
The sport shift holds gears longer. I have no more complaints about it though.
It's very quiet when cruising. I have taken it over small dunes at South Padre Island, Tx. It actually handled better than my SuperCrew 4X4. I had to drop the ford in 4 low.
35" tires and a 6" lift. It's a nice ride, despite ugly comments on this site.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:56 AM   #6
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I see people complain about the Tribeca's "wimpy" engine, but it seems to fit the uses that its targeted market wants.

Besides, it's not like this class of vehicle is meant for drag racing or something. Having said that, I still wanted to get other people's impressions of how well the Tribeca's power meets their needs.

Keep the input coming.
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Old 09-29-2005, 02:31 AM   #7
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Why not an Outback? if you don't have to have the space i'd go with a 2.5xt less expensive, plenty of low end torque, and will breath easier in the mountains.

I did a 24 hour test drive on the Tribeca...For all it's worth I would have no problems owning the vehicle. It could use a little more low end grunt but other than that I really liked it. The handling was very nice.

The base five passenger is fairly sprightly...0-60 in 8.5 seconds...the fully loaded 7 is a bit slower...9.2 seconds. It sounds like you're looking at the base 5. If so you'll be 0-60 faster than the BMW X5 3.0i and the Honda Pilot. You just won't have the low end push of the honda pilot but it will get up and go when asked.

Even though it seems like you are leaning towards the Tribeca, drive the pilot. compare ride quality, power, features, space, comfort, ergonomics, style, and whatever else. If i were to tell you which one to get i'd say the Tribeca. If you were on a Honda forum they'd tell you the Pilot. Go for the one you like the best.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:04 AM   #8
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Off the line, acceleration of B9 is terrible even if you don't drag racing. It's worse than my old '97 OB and no comparison to my WRX. Of course, it is very smooth if you drive it gentally. I'm just used to my old cars.

Here is some numbers:

B9's 3.0 H-6 engine has peak torque of 219 lb-ft to propell 4,200-lb car.
WRX 2.0 H-4 Turbo engine has peak torque of 217 lb-ft to propell 3,200-lb car.
Legacy GT 2.5 H-4 Turbo engine has peak torque of 250 lb-ft to propell 3,700-lb car.
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:19 PM   #9
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LGT weights 500 lbs more than WRX? source?

Anyway, what the Tribeca really needs is a hybrid assist system. More low-end torque plus better fuel economy.
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Fuel economy isn't so bad...it just has a tiny gas tank compared to all other suv's of it's size.
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Old 09-29-2005, 07:03 PM   #11
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Does the Nissan Murano fit anywhere in this discussion? I do like the exterior of the Murano, but the interior looks and feels cheap to me.

From all that I'm seeing, the Tribeca is a heck of a deal for around $32k. I'm taking my wife to test drive it tomorrow. If it was my choice alone, I'd probably already own one. Having said that, I will take a test drive of the Pilot before I decide.

By the way, I don't think my wife would go for the 2.5xt, but I understand what you're getting at.
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Old 09-29-2005, 07:42 PM   #12
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LGT weights 500 lbs more than WRX? source?
Sorry. Make LGT 3,400-lb.
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JimmL,

To me the only reason for chosing Tribeca is because I want a 7-seat configuration. This takes quite a few SUVs out of consideration, Nissan included. Unless you really like the styling of Tribeca or must have a SUV, a Legacy GT or Outback is a much better choice, IMO. Most of the equipment in Tribeca can now be found in LGT or OB. And they handles much better than Tribeca. At about 15 MPG for local driving, you have to pay a lot of $$ these days to keep it running.

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At about 15 MPG for local driving, you have to pay a lot of $$ these days to keep it running.
I thought i had a lead foot...i averaged 19 mpg the first time i had one as a loaner car and 21 on the 24 hour test drive.


I have only ridden passenger in a murano...way to cheap interior for my taste. I wouldn't be able to deal with that day in and day out. I also have a personal thing against orange gauges...it just doesn't look aesthetically pleasing to me.
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Old 09-30-2005, 10:33 AM   #15
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I'm not all that concerned about the fuel economy when comparing the OB and Legacy against the Tribeca. According to the specs, you only get 1 or 2 MPG improvement by going to the OB or Legacy.

STI Orenji, I feel the same way about the Morano. I want to like it, but that interior would make me feel like I wasted my money.

I got a pretty agressive price on the Pilot EX ($29,500 + tax & title). My Subaru dealer is selling all of their Tribecas at $600 below factory invoice! I think I've really narrowed it down to those two.

Thanks again for all your feedback.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:45 PM   #16
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Well, I got one!!

I took my wife to test drive the Tribeca and she loved it as much as I did. We got and excellent deal on the 5-passenger (non-limited) at Timmons Subaru in Long Beach.

The were real straight with us, even showed us the invoices of the models we were interested in.

In any case, I couldn't be happier with my purchase! I've gotten lots of compliments, and turned a more than a few heads. Sure there are some things they could improve, but I still love this vehicle!

Just thought I'd let you know.
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:59 PM   #17
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Well, I got one!!

I took my wife to test drive the Tribeca and she loved it as much as I did. We got and excellent deal on the 5-passenger (non-limited) at Timmons Subaru in Long Beach.

The were real straight with us, even showed us the invoices of the models we were interested in.

In any case, I couldn't be happier with my purchase! I've gotten lots of compliments, and turned a more than a few heads. Sure there are some things they could improve, but I still love this vehicle!

Just thought I'd let you know.
What model? Fully loaded? Color? DVD/Nav? What was the final price you paid if I may ask? The reason I ask is that I am buying one SOON, and I want to see how cheap I can really get a fully loaded "Limited" one for. I know the owner of Irvine Subaru and think she'd give me a great deal, but I want to explore all options!
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This is useless, but I'm vaguely amused at how the center console and dash of the Tribeca remind me of the *bridge* on Star Trek. Very modern, a little odd, but fit for a Captain.
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Well, I got one!!

I took my wife to test drive the Tribeca and she loved it as much as I did. We got and excellent deal on the 5-passenger (non-limited) at Timmons Subaru in Long Beach.

The were real straight with us, even showed us the invoices of the models we were interested in.

In any case, I couldn't be happier with my purchase! I've gotten lots of compliments, and turned a more than a few heads. Sure there are some things they could improve, but I still love this vehicle!

Just thought I'd let you know.
Congrats on your new Tribeca...it's a pretty cool automobile.
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