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Old 09-28-2005, 07:23 PM   #1
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I saw this car http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=853840 posted recently and wanted to know anyone's opinion on the car. It looks pretty nice, but I am just unsure of the engine setup. I am not up to snuff on swaps, so any advice would be great.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:51 PM   #2
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Looks dam good,and sounds like a great build......Ive seen stock one's sell for 12k, This guys taking a big hit on the car so thats just somthing to watch out for....But great build
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:20 PM   #3
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that is a great set up....definitly a killer price on it 14,000! should go quick.
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:27 PM   #4
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It can't have TWE stage 3 cams, because I talked to the guys at TWE, and they said their stage 3 cams don't idle, he must mean stage 2 cams...
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:24 PM   #5
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yeah apparently the car idles at 750-850 rpms. as far as the engine used, is this a good choice? reliable?
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Old 09-29-2005, 08:18 PM   #6
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No, id say for reliablity....an STI ej257 is your best bet! If a conversion is what you want..................Id rebuild my block to better specs and higher HP ratings and keep it rallyspec....thats just me! Swaps are not as easy as they make them sound and having a machine shop build you a block is alot cheaper then they make it seem...."1800-2500 Built" Just my .02

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Old 09-29-2005, 10:03 PM   #7
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why would an ej257 be a more reliable block? Ej22t is a stronger block!
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:32 PM   #8
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why would an ej257 be a more reliable block? Ej22t is a stronger block!
Cuzz the 2.2t is old school...sure its a good block but the ej257 has more displacment and its way cheaper and easier to find

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p.s. Only the test of time will tell the true reliabilty of a ej257,its kinda premature to compare the two

"edit"p.p.s. If im not mistakin he asked if this built "used engine" is going to be a reliable choice...I gave my opinion.

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Old 09-29-2005, 10:53 PM   #9
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so the stage III cams dont idle at all eh...hmm
sounds a little strange to me...considering with the IAC ALONE you can get the car to idle around 2200rpm
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:57 PM   #10
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so the stage III cams dont idle at all eh...hmm
sounds a little strange to me...considering with the IAC ALONE you can get the car to idle around 2200rpm
^^+1..............

in lamens terms....The Idle Air Controller "IAC"
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:24 PM   #11
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oh well i love mine!
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:11 AM   #12
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Well TWE told me they were for racing applications only, right now my RS idles at 500-750rpm, not sure I'd want a 2k idler... But I'm sure it screams all the way up to 7-8k rpms!
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:24 AM   #13
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I guess what I am trying to get at is if any of you were looking to buy a pre-swapped rs, would this be an advisable choice? From what I am gathering, it might be a little old school, but it seems like some others I have seen for sale, the $$ is pretty good. Thanks for all of your replies so far.
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Old 09-30-2005, 01:12 AM   #14
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I guess what I am trying to get at is if any of you were looking to buy a pre-swapped rs, would this be an advisable choice? From what I am gathering, it might be a little old school, but it seems like some others I have seen for sale, the $$ is pretty good. Thanks for all of your replies so far.

YES!......i couldnt understand what you were getting at. 14k for this car is a good deal"pending commpression test and car-fax". Id still try to low ballm "cuzz thats just me"Its pimpin ,As long as you understand there is no such thing as a reliable race car
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Old 09-30-2005, 01:44 AM   #15
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Mabe get a dyno chart too, if it's pushing 300+hp I'd expect to buy a new tranny soon, ^_^

Still cheaper than doing that shizzle yourself!

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Old 09-30-2005, 01:45 AM   #16
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Well I totally understand it's not going to be your mom's camry here, but I had an '03 wrx stage 2 and that thing was pretty bulletproof if driven respectfully. I am not one to drop the clutch at 5k or anything! I just don't want it to be something I have to tinker with every other weekend just to get it to run decent. Hope that clears things up with my q.
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Old 09-30-2005, 01:50 AM   #17
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If you cant do this tinkering yourself then maybe i wouldnt say yes.....if you can then yes....saves a bunch of cash....if you want a GC8-t Thats a good one id say....But with custom set-ups everyday garenteed reliabilty is pretty much out the window unless you really know how to do the work yourself.


Im just as in the middle on this as you are....just think log and hard about what you want versus what you need
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:25 AM   #18
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Hey I don't mind a tinker here and there, but if the car is blowing trannies/clutches or head gaskets etc, that's the thing I am leery about. I don't mind changing the map on the computer or making an adjustment from time to time. When it was mentioned that the ej22t is a little old school, in the real world how would this affect anything? Would I be better off looking for a conversion with a wrx swap or would that be a little pricier? I have seen some pretty sweet sti ver 7's but $16-18k is a bit much. Thanks again for all of your advice.
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:33 AM   #19
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As far as powertrain concerns...I think it'll be fine.....besides being a lil old school,Its great all-ready built car! Id be leary of the distance between you and him and would want to see/drive/fully inspect the car before I would buy it .4000 miles is a hike, shipping isnt cheap, and either is flying out to see the car "possibly drive home "...Just My .02
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:57 AM   #20
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Engine management is a bit weak IMO and the tranny might be a problem. I'd offer him $13k
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Old 09-30-2005, 03:37 AM   #21
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----Drac9- Engine management is a bit weak IMO and the tranny might be a problem. I'd offer him $13k---

So what other options are there for engine management? I am used to utec and acessport for wrx's...

It's funny, it seems like every used car I buy is located on the other side of the continent! I bought a '97 obs in NJ and luckily other than a few small blemishes on the paint and interior, the car has been solid as a rock. Besides driving cross country in 3 days is everybody's idea of fun, right??
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To name a few- Link Plus, Autronic, Haltech, Tec 2 or Tec 3. Good engine management and tuning are the key to reliability on an rs-t.
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:41 PM   #23
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I know... people around Portland and in the NW seem to want a HELL of alot more for their cars than people on the east coast...
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:49 PM   #24
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why would an ej257 be a more reliable block? Ej22t is a stronger block!
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the ej22t has been proven since what...1991? and it is 99% bolt on...as opposed to the 257 with is only about 90%. FULLY closed deck vs semi closed deck...shorter stroke = less fatigue on rods @ high rpm.

as far as being reliable...you never know what is going to go wrong next with a car that has been taken so far down the modification road. engine management is everything. and his EM is lacking...but besides that I would say a decent ride.

if you want total reliability..look for full swap.
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:40 PM   #25
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Full swap meaning like a wrx motor dropped in or something similar? Sorry still a rookie with these terms...
And his EM seems to be lacking, are there any semi-affordable options/upgrades?
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