Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Wednesday November 26, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Reviews > Vendor Reviews

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-24-2001, 06:46 PM   #1
SubaruParts.com
Former Vendor
Vendor Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2249
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tacoma, WA, USA
Thumbs down Moderators on the Vendor Thread

Hey, great idea on this thread, but the moderators needs to keep their opinions to themselves and not change the main pages of the threads! I want to know why there are thumbs down on SubaruParts.com and SPT Tuning and a mad face on JC Sports when all three start their threads with a thumbs up! On top of that, SPT Tuning does not have one thumbs down on the entire thread! Please do not go back and change the thumbs to meet your views and opinions! These are the views of the members posting their own personal experiences! If I am wrong, please let me know!

Thanks,

C. Scott Williams
Internet Parts Director
SubaruParts.com
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

Last edited by SubaruParts.com; 08-24-2001 at 07:25 PM.
SubaruParts.com is offline  
Old 08-24-2001, 07:17 PM   #2
WagonMonster
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (5)
 
Member#: 3781
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Napa Valley
Vehicle:
2002 Legacy GT Wagon
2009 Forester X Limited

Default

yeah, I'm confused with the sudden Thumbs Down as well, especially considering that I've had positive experiences with both SubaruParts.com and Mike at SPD.
WagonMonster is offline  
Old 08-24-2001, 08:12 PM   #3
david2z4
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (1)
 
Member#: 1838
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: WA
Vehicle:
2000 Impreza RS BRP
Vishnu Turbo/Tec3

Default

Hmmm you are right the thumbs have changed.
david2z4 is offline  
Old 08-24-2001, 08:46 PM   #4
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (35)
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

The moderators are not changing the icons on the threads... the moderators (well, me anyway) have been merging the threads to keep all the ideas about a particular vendor together... if there is a thumbs up, thumbs down, or whatever on the post, it is there because one of the threads it was merged with had it, and it was given by one of the people who started whichever threads were merged... I know, for myself anyway, that the icons are not being changed by the moderators. I don't control which one shows up, when threads are merged, as something just like this would result if I did. Be assured that if there is a thumbs down there, someone gave it . I can split the threads back up if you folks do not believe me.

Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
...something that rhymes with bones
North Ursalia is offline  
Old 08-24-2001, 08:59 PM   #5
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (35)
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

Ok, here's a "for instance." I merged 2 threads about Teague's Auto, one from Warp 3 and one from Gulio just now.

This is a screenshot of the first post of Warp3's thread:

It has a "thumbs up"

This is a screenshot of Gulio's post:

It has a "smiley face"

This is the merged thread, as listed presently in the forum list:

The thread got the thumbs up in this case. Why is there almost a "conspiracy theory" running around about the moderators? We really are not evil people doing the devil's work I swear... no blood letting ceremonies this week . I don't understand why a thumbs down on a post means a moderator did it... I merged your threads Scott, and I for one am very happy with you and have gotten quite a few items from you in the past...


Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
You and the Captain make it happen!

Last edited by North Ursalia; 10-25-2012 at 07:07 PM.
North Ursalia is offline  
Old 08-24-2001, 09:28 PM   #6
david2z4
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (1)
 
Member#: 1838
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: WA
Vehicle:
2000 Impreza RS BRP
Vishnu Turbo/Tec3

Default

That's cool I guess. It should say at the top of these threads that it is a Merged thread so if things don't make sence we know the reason why.


edit: just checking to see if I can change the Icon.

Looks like the first poster can go back in and change it to the correct Icon they want.

Last edited by david2z4; 08-28-2001 at 04:48 PM.
david2z4 is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 02:25 AM   #7
the Dabbler
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 4540
Join Date: Feb 2001
Vehicle:
MY00 2.5RS Sedan
Abnormally Aspirated

Default

North:

Is there any way to rectify this? I ask because I started the thread on Mike Shields at SPD and I have had GREAT service from him. I come back to visit the thread, and find to my horror that a "thumbs down" has replaced my initial "thumbs up".

It may be a minor point to some, but the thumbs up/down is a powerful suggestion for someone who doesn't take time to read the mostly positive things said about a particular vendor (SPD, this case).

I realize this wasn't intentional, but can it be fixed? Perhaps the solution is to split the threads up again? I hate to suggest this and create even more work for the moderators (I, for one, really appreciate the work you guys do). But I think this is actually pretty important.
the Dabbler is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 09:24 AM   #8
Opie
Floresbian
Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (12)
 
Member#: 470
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Riverview, Florida - U.S.A.
Vehicle:
2015 Forester 2.0XT
'14 XV Crosstrek, '99 SF

Default

Very interesting North Ursalia, I guess we as moderatores will have to pay more attention to the posts we are merging until we can find a "fix" for this. Thanks for the heads-up Scott.
Opie is online now  
Old 08-28-2001, 10:11 AM   #9
HRE | giulio
Former Vendor
Vendor Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 481
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: NY USA
Post mixed reviews

if there is mixed reviews... just make it the icon that i used here. notpad!

Hey look, i'm like... famous! moderators are quoting me
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
HRE | giulio is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 11:06 AM   #10
JGard
pooptastic
Member Sales Rating: (7)
 
Member#: 1904
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Austin, TX
Vehicle:
2014 Lexus IS 350
01 Miata red

Default

so, I guess what you are trying to say, is that just because we are moderators, we are not allowed to have an opinion?

i'm not a mod in this forum, so I can't change a damn thing, but you know what? I've had plenty of experience with Vendors and the like, and I feel it's only right to let people know what happened.

I don't generally post much of an opinion, rather, I post my experiences, and let people decide on their own.
JGard is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 12:53 PM   #11
Fish
RIP Sirkbac
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 869
Join Date: Feb 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Nashua NH
Vehicle:
1987 GPZ-750 TURBO
90' MX-5/11' DGM STi Sdn

Default

I try to stay out of posts in this forum.

but if you screw me, then expect to hear about it.

I'm a member here too, just because I'm a mod.. does not mean I have to keep my negative experinces to myself.

as long as I adhere to the rules, and convey fact and not emotion.
then it's fine.
Fish is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 12:56 PM   #12
HRE | giulio
Former Vendor
Vendor Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 481
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: NY USA
Default

jgard, fishguy:
you totally missed the point. on a few threads, the icon was positive (in the forum's thread list). When merged with other threads, the icon changed to negative. or the other way around.
if negative and positive threads are merged, the icon should be neutral.
g
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
HRE | giulio is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 01:31 PM   #13
Opie
Floresbian
Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (12)
 
Member#: 470
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Riverview, Florida - U.S.A.
Vehicle:
2015 Forester 2.0XT
'14 XV Crosstrek, '99 SF

Default

giulio - The problem is that we (moderators) cannot change the icon. Something in the code of vB changes the icon when a moderator merges two seperate threads into one. How vB decides which icon to use is unknown to us at this point.
Opie is online now  
Old 08-28-2001, 03:24 PM   #14
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (35)
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

Actually, we can change it . I however feel it would be completely wrong to do. Why does the icon matter so much is what I'm getting at... say the merged thread has 30 replies but starts out with a thumbs down, and only 3 or 4 people express dissatisfaction with the vendor. Looks to me like one person didn't like their service and 26 people defended them. Flip the coin- one person starts a "bob's donut shop kicks arse" thread and 29 people villify that.... should I/we change the icon? Hell no. This is *not* a directed statement towards anyone, but I think that if people are just looking through here and going by icons on posts to decide who they deal business with, they need their heads examined, as well as the people who believe that there are people who do just that. The members of this board are FAR too intelligent to be swayed by an icon . Would you rather

A) have all the posts about one vendor in one spot so you can have all the info about one vendor in ONE place or

B) potentially miss the thread that says "I got ripped off by X vendor dont' do business with them"

You tell me which you think is better (rhetorical question BTW ).


Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
...something that rhymes with bones
North Ursalia is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 09:51 PM   #15
the Dabbler
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 4540
Join Date: Feb 2001
Vehicle:
MY00 2.5RS Sedan
Abnormally Aspirated

Default

Quote:
This is *not* a directed statement towards anyone, but I think that if people are just looking through here and going by icons on posts to decide who they deal business with, they need their heads examined, as well as the people who believe that there are people who do just that. The members of this board are FAR too intelligent to be swayed by an icon.
Not that I feel directed upon, but I guess I need my head examined, because I'm thinking that there are people that look at the icons and take them at face value. Maybe you have more faith in people than I do. Getting cynical in my old age.


Hey North,

I think this got a little off-track here. Or at least, off track from what I was trying to say.

Let me restate. And again, this is not a flame on moderators. I don't think anyone here was saying moderators aren't entitled to opinions, or anything like that. Moderators are obviously people (and customers), too.

The point is, I made a post. My personal experience was positive, so I put a little thumbs-up icon there. I return to find that my thumbs-up (I consider it mine, since it's next to my name in the topic list), has turned to a thumbs-down. I realize this was not intentional. That's just what vB does when a thread was merged. I also realize that this means someone at some point created a thread with a thumbs down and that's where it came from. I'm all for that. I certainly want to hear about bad experiences as well as good. But the point is, my icon changed.

If it's going to change, can we do like someone suggested and just make them all Notepads or little imprezas or something neutral?

So, how about:
C) Have all the posts in one place. Change all topic list icons for merged threads to Notepads. All the info is in one place, no one has their icon (and by extension, a visual representation of their opinion) reversed, and no one misses any info.

I realize this is creating more work for you. And as I said before, I do appreciate the work you guys do. So whatever you decide to do, I understand it is your prerogative. Thanks for considering this request.
the Dabbler is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 10:03 PM   #16
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (35)
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

Actually, that's really a damn good idea! I think I will adopt the arrow tag as most people don't use it and it does look like something is "moving" together . If it's done to all the merged threads, it's democratic . Doing that now... very good solution!

Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
...something that rhymes with bones
North Ursalia is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 10:16 PM   #17
the Dabbler
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 4540
Join Date: Feb 2001
Vehicle:
MY00 2.5RS Sedan
Abnormally Aspirated

Default

Arrows are good! Thanks, North!


(And to giulio for the original suggestion)
the Dabbler is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 10:27 PM   #18
david2z4
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (1)
 
Member#: 1838
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: WA
Vehicle:
2000 Impreza RS BRP
Vishnu Turbo/Tec3

Default

Sounds like a very good idea.
david2z4 is offline  
Old 08-28-2001, 10:31 PM   #19
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (35)
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

Ok, check it out... arrows and "(merged thread)" .

Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
Prune juice: two out of three proctologists can't be wrong!
North Ursalia is offline  
Old 08-29-2001, 03:25 PM   #20
SubaruParts.com
Former Vendor
Vendor Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2249
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tacoma, WA, USA
Default Stand Corrected

North:
Thanks for the great modification in the site.

All Moderators on this forum:
I apologize about accusing you of changing the thumbs and faces on the mail page. This was out of your control and I now realize this.

All the members on the I-Club:
I hope you have a nice day!

Thanks,


C. Scott Williams
SubaruParts.com
SubaruParts.com is offline  
Old 08-29-2001, 05:19 PM   #21
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (35)
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

Thanks Scott! Glad to see a happy ending to this, and I think things will work out well with merged threads from here on out .

Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
Come See The Magic World Inside the Abandoned Refrigerator!
North Ursalia is offline  
Old 08-30-2001, 11:39 AM   #22
Subie Gal
GC84Ever
Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (24)
 
Member#: 301
Join Date: Sep 1999
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: WA
Vehicle:
1970 FF-1 & '70 Van
02 WRX/01 RS

Arrow

waaa happened???

dang i missed it

ok.. using aarows from now on

j.
www.subiegal.com
Subie Gal is offline  
Old 08-30-2001, 12:23 PM   #23
HRE | giulio
Former Vendor
Vendor Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 481
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: NY USA
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Subie Gal
waaa happened???
democracy in action. it was a beautiful thing.
HRE | giulio is offline  
Old 08-30-2001, 01:02 PM   #24
North Ursalia
Miss You Mom
Oct 1940 - Feb 2008

Super Moderator
Member Sales Rating: (35)
 
Member#: 809
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees
Vehicle:
2000 2.5 RS, '14 For
92 5MT SVX

Default

Jamie, because merging threads gives an arbitrary one or the other icon, and changing them per what I thought would be good just seems wrong, I went ahead and changed every merged thread to an arrow (can't be unfair if you do it to everybody ) and changed the titles to "(merged thread)". I'm going to do that from now on to keep things sane .

Brian
http://www.northursalia.com
http://www.imprezamods.com
http://www.scoobymods.com
You and the Captain make it happen!
North Ursalia is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Moderators on the pot... Idjiit Off-Topic 71 04-24-2007 11:29 PM
Holy crap.. doubleclick subject bar works for non-moderators on their own threads? Porter Off-Topic 5 12-06-2006 04:05 AM
Question for the Moderators on the Dealership Forum.... LinuxGuy Dealership Reviews 1 05-27-2003 05:14 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.