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Old 10-10-2005, 01:36 AM   #1
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Legacy 1996 Legacy L front bumper repaint progress pics

Finally got fed up with the peeling front bumper on my 10 year old car. I had scuffed it under someone else's rear license plate at a chain control area near Tahoe. It cut the paint and over the years it has peeled back from the cut.

The basic strategy is to remove the loose paint and use Duplicolor RED (it really says that on the label) to blend into the paint that actually isn't peeling. [EDITaint label info Duplicolor ET0176 T176 RED (M) CC UPC 026916901767].

So begins this long drawn out project.......here is the starting point.


My friend with the 2006 WRX helped remove some of the loose stuff with a razor blade. Of course it went farther than expected so we took off the bumper. The rectangular spot is a test patch - a decent match for $5.99 a spray can. The black strap is holding the styrofoam pad to the bumper bar - one of the foam's posts (part of the foam too) broke.


Currently I am feather sanding the good paint and taking the "bad" paint off down to the black plastic. This is a good chance to clean up the nicks and pits. I'm starting with 320 grit and will go to 600 before the first adhesion promoter and primer pass.

More pics to follow as this project continues to get out of hand!
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Old 10-10-2005, 03:50 AM   #2
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great little project, keep up the good work and the pics

cant wait to see the final product.
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:18 PM   #3
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While you're letting things get out of hand, maybe you could take care of the yellow on your headlights too and then your car would just about look new from the front :-)
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Old 10-10-2005, 11:47 PM   #4
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While you're letting things get out of hand, maybe you could take care of the yellow on your headlights too and then your car would just about look new from the front :-)
Bah..... I knew someone was going to say something about that. Actually, the headlight freshening is on the agenda. I just finished repainting the wiper blade arms semigloss black - I needed something easy to help keep me motivated through all this.
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:34 AM   #5
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Given that DUPLICOLOUR no longer sells Ruby Red Mica paint..

What sort of paint (paint code ?) did you get to in its place ?
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Old 10-11-2005, 07:37 AM   #6
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I want your friends car, or one just like it...

Seriously thinking about selling the Legacy and upgrading
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Old 10-12-2005, 12:32 AM   #7
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Here are some headlight polishing pictures. The yellow came off pretty quickly with the wet 800 grit. I down to 1500 wet. And then I took a really neat 30micron diamond pad wet. Plastic polish just on the first pass. I'll spend some more time buffing it. When I am done with this, I'll throw an acrylic clear spray on the lenses.


You can really see how the clearcoat on the lens failed here. I still have some crazing in the cleaned lens, but I think that's just age. Won't be able to do anything about that.


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Given that DUPLICOLOUR no longer sells Ruby Red Mica paint..
What sort of paint (paint code ?) did you get to in its place ?
It literally says RED on the can. It's not going to be a perfect match, but it has to be better than primer grey.

On the bumper itself, I have been removing the primer and sanding out the nicks and cuts. This is taking forever.
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Old 10-15-2005, 02:07 AM   #8
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This is taking forever.........at least I have all the materials.
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Old 10-15-2005, 07:31 AM   #9
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Yikes !

This is certainly taking you a very long time.

Perhaps starting with a brand new unpainted bumper might have save your some time and labour effort. I would very much like to see the completed results though. (I hope your new paint is reasonably close to the origional factory colour.
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:48 AM   #10
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What is going on in that last pic? can't quite figure it out.

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Old 10-15-2005, 04:42 PM   #11
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What is going on in that last picture? I can't quite figure it out.
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Jared -
The paint is slowly being "wet sanded" off of the bumper. The trick is to remove the paint but not scuff up or scratch the urethane bumper too much. To do this JPX is using a fairly "fine" (low abrasive) water saturated sand paper. This is a fairly slow, tedious and labour intensive task. Most body shops would likely just purchase a NEW bumper skin for around $200. A body shop would likely charge an additional $200 to paint the new bumper with a flexible primer and colour matched finish coat. Doing this as a DIY project is saving JPX a good $400. Having more free time and energy than actual dollars JPX is doing things the slow and carefull way. After he removes the paint he will need some fairly flexible primer and then a finish coat.

The big concerns are how well the paint will bond to the flexible bumper surface and how well the new paint colour will blend in with the rest of the car. Red paint is notorious for fading over time when exposed to sun light. I wish him the best of luck, and am eagerly awaiting the final results.
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Old 10-15-2005, 05:36 PM   #12
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Johnathan read that picture exactly right. Wetsanding takes a long time, but I can control the surface texture much easier.

Of course having a 1 and a 3 year old running around makes it difficult to keep this project on track.

But today I think I have done all the sanding I can handle at this end. I've degreased and masked today. First coats of adhesion promoter are on. Next is primer.


Here is the collection of sprays I'm using - hope this stuff sticks to the bumper after all this.


On the color matching, I can already tell the metal flakes are bigger than factory. I already knew a perfect match was unlikely from the start. I have low standards - anything has got to be better than what I started with:
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Old 10-15-2005, 06:12 PM   #13
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One of these is very handy! Thats how I did my bumper. I hope you clear coat the entire bumper or else youll see the different layers of clear.

I think it will match pretty nicely, cant wait to see it!. Hope that ridge of old paint doesnt show up though!
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Old 10-16-2005, 12:26 AM   #14
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do you have any pics of the RED paint you're using on a test piece, next to the factory paint? i'm interested in seeing how close it is. i have a few things on mine that i have to repaint.
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Old 10-16-2005, 01:36 AM   #15
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Thats coming along nicely.

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Old 10-16-2005, 02:04 AM   #16
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do you have any pics of the RED paint you're using on a test piece, next to the factory paint?
I do not. But I will be pulling the tape off later tonight - so the two colors will be right next to each other. I will mask further back when the clear goes on to help blend the seam a little bit.

Okay, here is how things went today. After the adhesion promoter and initial primer mist coat, the primer went down nice and smooth.



I'm a little worried about the orange peel finish as the color coats went on. I will put down LOTS of clear coats so I have plenty of meat to work with on the final wetsands to polish. Had to do a touch-up wet sand to knock down a big piece of lint before the final color coat.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:46 AM   #17
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Hmmmm....probably could have masked the right side a little more evenly near the license plate holes . Oh well. Just letting it dry overnight and most of tomorrow before throwing on lots of clear coat.


So getting back to the color matching question, here is what the side by side comparison looks like with the garage lighting. The color actually matches - but because there is more metallic in the Duplicolor, the color shifts a lot more with different light angles. I'm sure daylight tomorrow will be, well....more illuminating .
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Thats an excellent colour match, JPX. Much better than I expected.

This is bit nit picky but there does appear in the photos to be just a wee bit of "orange peel" on the paint surface. This is often times caused by a too heavy application of paint. Very light ultra-fine wet sanding could make a big difference here.

If your happy with the results (way better than what it was) and from 20 feet nobody will notice, so maybe i shouldn't say anything. Also if you dont have anymore red paint (or time) maybe its best to quit while you are ahead. However I would be less then honest if I didnt mention it.

Also I should ask again exactly what colour "Red" is that ?? Is there a specific paint code ? Is it a Dodge Truck "Chilli Peper Red" ??? Something like that ??? Because the colour is so close, I would love to buy a can or three for my own car.

Thanks very much for sharing your progress with us.
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Old 10-16-2005, 01:04 PM   #19
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Good eye - you a pro painter? You're right, the orange peel is kind of a drag. I just can't invest another 40 hours on wet-sanding/painting on this project at this point.

Besides, I don't want to the bumper to look too good. You guys haven't seen how dinged up the rest of this car is. It's a greater-than-40-footer.........meaning it's a good candidate for pushing off a cliff 40 feet or greater!

The Duplicolor paint I am using is labeled as follows:
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:38 AM   #20
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Sprayed an unbelievable amount of acrylic enamel clear today. I lost count after the 6th coat - plus, the fumes were getting a little out of control *cough*


After the air cleared up a little, here is how the bumper turned out. I'll let it dry for a couple of days and then see if there is any point to wet sanding and buffing. I'm eagerly looking forward to reassembly.


I shot a coat of adhesion promoter before the first clear coat for good measure. The first can of clear had a nozzle that kind of crapped out halfway through. So I had a lot of trouble with those coats. But once I fired up the second can with a good nozzle, the clear went down real nice. I surprised myself by shooting all this clear without a single run.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:46 AM   #21
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Looks awesome.
I can't wait to see the finished bumper back on the car.
(take your time though, and get it done right!).
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:46 AM   #22
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Should have clearcoated the entire thing. Also, Breathing in clearcoat is VERY BAD! Good luck with yoru shiney new lungs :S

Other than that, it looks pretty good!! Pictures always show the worst contract between new and old paint, although after a few weeks in real life you wont see much of a difference!
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Old 10-19-2005, 01:24 PM   #23
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why would you spray half of a bumper on a random line? It looks unproffessional. You definitly are good at spraying, the color matches very nicely and the clear coat looks great, but why not do it right and have it come out perfect? I am curious to see how you featherd the clear coat in. post sum pics of the completed bumper on the car.
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Old 10-20-2005, 05:59 AM   #24
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...It looks unproffessional. ...why not do it right and have it come out perfect?
Yeah, do it perfectly. You really should have block sanded, prepped, masked, primered, and painted the Entire car.

IMHO the work done here is excellent, the new paint looks like it blends in very nicely with the existing paint and the unpainted lower section of the bumper is very unlikely to be be noticed unless you kneal down close and look under the bumper.

It would be really easy to resort to online taunting of this Kawi kid, but then again we were all idealistic youngsters at some point.
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Nice finished product, excellent considering it came from a rattle can.

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