car starting when is key is let go...

darioc · 10-10-2005, 10:51 AM

2002 2.5rst

Hitokiri installed an emanage in my car this weekend. went great until we tried to start it. it cranks and cranks, then i let go of the key to stop trying and it backfires then starts, then runs fine. we changed the second jumper to 2-3 so we got 12 volts instead of 5 and it still does it. when the wires are routed around the eman, so its basically stock wiring, it starts fine. weird thing is that it does it with just a j&s safegaurd wired too. we tried another ecu and it did the same thing.

we are completely out of ideas. we have checked the wiring over and over and its flawless. anyone have any ideas? anyone expierience anything like this before?

side note: we recently had the perfect power smt6 wired in and the car would not start at all. it would actually give a spark when the key was in accessory mode. plug in the provided bridge to ground out the ignition signal and it would run fine though!

2nd side note: if you know where i live, blow up my car please!

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8Complex · 10-10-2005, 11:36 AM

Sounds like you grabbed a power wire for one of the units that cuts out when it's cranking. You need one that stays hot when it's cranking, otherwise you'll get the exact results you have now.

Hitokiri · 10-10-2005, 11:58 AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 YOU ARE THE BEST!!!

HAHAHAHAHA

god I am dumb

darioc · 10-10-2005, 12:00 PM

This Is Redic

8Complex · 10-10-2005, 12:01 PM

/me bows

ai42 · 10-10-2005, 12:19 PM

I had really rought starts when my MAF dip switch setting was off.

Hitokiri · 10-10-2005, 12:20 PM

nope - 8 is entirely right 100000000%

I am a jackass

darioc · 10-10-2005, 12:24 PM

yeah we re-wired the power to the cig. lighter. whats funny is we actually just did this before hand. we removed it from the power supply on the ecu, to avoid interference.

rediculous.

8Complex · 10-10-2005, 01:59 PM

Heh, at least it's a simple solution. I've seen it done before, and I was warned about it before I installed my first EMS mod (apex ITC). Don't feel bad, it happens to everyone at least once if they're not forewarned.

RSEnigma · 10-10-2005, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darioc

This Is Redic

so you still want me to come blow up yur car dar?

side note 1: hitokiri is a jackass........god what a jackass

side note 2: my car starts!!!!! got it running about an hour ago. took it for a ride up and down my street to make sure it ran alright.......holy friggin almost flying off the road. the front end alignment is soooo bad, its probably something like 5 degrees toe on both sides and neg 100000000% camber both sides. i thought i was gona die!

2slofouru · 10-10-2005, 09:21 PM

Ignition power wire = better than accesory power wire.

darioc · 10-11-2005, 11:58 AM

oooooooo Tj talk dirty to me!

we were trying the cig lighter because we didnt want interference at the ecu.

RSEnigma · 10-11-2005, 02:20 PM

i love how your car description is 02 NA 2.5RST LOL so when are we fixing the car and tuning? i need to take my baby on a drive once she's all aligned and inspected so i might as well come down and see u and rem.

RSEnigma · 10-11-2005, 02:23 PM

wait just a biff. i just read my rs-t thread, yur coming up tomorrow? man thats so soon, i need more time to do my hair!

darioc · 10-11-2005, 02:37 PM

good well you should drive down here with todd to tune then. its way better down here for that. please? call me when you get this.

10-10-2005, 10:51 AM	#1
darioc Scooby Specialist Member#: 35695 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: 06281 Vehicle: 02 RST 98 Outback 92 Wrangler	car starting when is key is let go... 2002 2.5rst Hitokiri installed an emanage in my car this weekend. went great until we tried to start it. it cranks and cranks, then i let go of the key to stop trying and it backfires then starts, then runs fine. we changed the second jumper to 2-3 so we got 12 volts instead of 5 and it still does it. when the wires are routed around the eman, so its basically stock wiring, it starts fine. weird thing is that it does it with just a j&s safegaurd wired too. we tried another ecu and it did the same thing. we are completely out of ideas. we have checked the wiring over and over and its flawless. anyone have any ideas? anyone expierience anything like this before? side note: we recently had the perfect power smt6 wired in and the car would not start at all. it would actually give a spark when the key was in accessory mode. plug in the provided bridge to ground out the ignition signal and it would run fine though! 2nd side note: if you know where i live, blow up my car please! * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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10-10-2005, 11:36 AM	#2
8Complex Moderator Member#: 922 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Schaumburg, IL Vehicle: 04 FXT Red	Sounds like you grabbed a power wire for one of the units that cuts out when it's cranking. You need one that stays hot when it's cranking, otherwise you'll get the exact results you have now.

10-10-2005, 11:58 AM	#3
Hitokiri Scooby Specialist Member#: 2604 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: CA Vehicle: 1999 2.5RSt RBP	!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8 YOU ARE THE BEST!!! HAHAHAHAHA god I am dumb

10-10-2005, 12:00 PM	#4
darioc Scooby Specialist Member#: 35695 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: 06281 Vehicle: 02 RST 98 Outback 92 Wrangler	This Is Redic

10-10-2005, 12:01 PM	#5
8Complex Moderator Member#: 922 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Schaumburg, IL Vehicle: 04 FXT Red	/me bows

10-10-2005, 12:19 PM	#6
ai42 Scooby Specialist Member#: 71348 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Frisco, TX Vehicle: 1999 EJ207 RS.TI VW Golf TDI 40mpg baby!	I had really rought starts when my MAF dip switch setting was off.

10-10-2005, 12:20 PM	#7
Hitokiri Scooby Specialist Member#: 2604 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: CA Vehicle: 1999 2.5RSt RBP	nope - 8 is entirely right 100000000% I am a jackass

10-10-2005, 12:24 PM	#8
darioc Scooby Specialist Member#: 35695 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: 06281 Vehicle: 02 RST 98 Outback 92 Wrangler	yeah we re-wired the power to the cig. lighter. whats funny is we actually just did this before hand. we removed it from the power supply on the ecu, to avoid interference. rediculous.

10-10-2005, 01:59 PM	#9
8Complex Moderator Member#: 922 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Schaumburg, IL Vehicle: 04 FXT Red	Heh, at least it's a simple solution. I've seen it done before, and I was warned about it before I installed my first EMS mod (apex ITC). Don't feel bad, it happens to everyone at least once if they're not forewarned.

10-10-2005, 09:21 PM	#11
2slofouru NASIOC Supporter Member#: 90539 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: somewhere east of CA Vehicle: 95 L with ej20k powa, Raven R6	Ignition power wire = better than accesory power wire.

10-11-2005, 11:58 AM	#12
darioc Scooby Specialist Member#: 35695 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: 06281 Vehicle: 02 RST 98 Outback 92 Wrangler	oooooooo Tj talk dirty to me! we were trying the cig lighter because we didnt want interference at the ecu.

10-11-2005, 02:20 PM	#13
RSEnigma Scooby Specialist Member#: 32326 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: moving back to MA soon! Vehicle: '04 S2000 Suzuka Blue	i love how your car description is 02 NA 2.5RST LOL so when are we fixing the car and tuning? i need to take my baby on a drive once she's all aligned and inspected so i might as well come down and see u and rem.

10-11-2005, 02:23 PM	#14
RSEnigma Scooby Specialist Member#: 32326 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: moving back to MA soon! Vehicle: '04 S2000 Suzuka Blue	wait just a biff. i just read my rs-t thread, yur coming up tomorrow? man thats so soon, i need more time to do my hair!

10-11-2005, 02:37 PM	#15
darioc Scooby Specialist Member#: 35695 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: 06281 Vehicle: 02 RST 98 Outback 92 Wrangler	good well you should drive down here with todd to tune then. its way better down here for that. please? call me when you get this.