good coilovers that fit 05 STi

Carbon888 · 10-11-2005, 10:08 PM

I have notice alot of coilovers will only fit up to 04 STi

This will be on my daily driving car and I want it to handle like a Lotus Elise. I know it's more then coilovers but this is my first step

Btw I don't want Tein.

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ChrisF · 10-11-2005, 10:51 PM

If you want it to handle like an Elise, remove approx. 1200lbs.

AndyRoo · 10-11-2005, 11:03 PM

and put the engine in the backseat.

Turn in Concepts · 10-11-2005, 11:07 PM

Not much out there will handle like an Elise. That's what makes it so special.

Anyway to answer your question look into the Zeals. Myles at racecomp or gtworx or whatever is next can hook you up.

Carbon888 · 10-16-2005, 06:30 AM

Thanks, I actually want Jap spec coilovers.
I was just wondering which coilovers 05 STi owners settled on..

UCD-WRX · 10-16-2005, 11:26 AM

Hey beilei,

Although it's not specific to '05 STi owners, my poll pretty much sums up what everyone is running:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819418

Teins lead with about 24% of voters using them. Then Cusco takes 11%, Zeal another 11%, Whiteline about 9%, JIC about 7%, DMS at 6%, KW at 3%, etc, etc, etc. So... you can guess that whichever of those brands have coilovers that fit the '05s will probably be represented in similar proportions.

UCD-WRX

vwown3d · 10-16-2005, 02:24 PM

lol 12oo lbs is a lot to lose! jic? possibly

not ur avg girl · 10-16-2005, 02:48 PM

JIC ... stiffer than TEIN... no EDFC but great handle

Dentspeed · 10-16-2005, 03:00 PM

What about zzyzx? Those look pretty good. Any comments?

Carbon888 · 10-16-2005, 10:14 PM

haha thanks for all the help. I am decided to settle on the Whiteline G4! I have read too much great reviews on them and the spec is exactly what I have been looking for.
Here's one review by SubieGal if anyone else is interested
http://www.subiegal.com/images/car%2...necoilover.htm

I heard there are two types, Curcuit and Race, How do you tell ? It doesn't say on the site I'am trying to purchase from

Arnie · 10-17-2005, 12:46 PM

Its a spring rate and valving difference between the two. Usually the Race (9/8k rates) are special order, most vendors only stock the Circuit(5/4k) version.

As smooth as the Group 4's are, a 9/8kg rate is pretty stiff (for my tastes). though most TEIN Flex guys are running even stiffer than that. Ouch!

you will also need front are rear swaybars to complement these coilovers. An absolute must. Whiteline's philosophy is that you use anti roll bars to control roll, not spring rate. So these are best when paired with bigger bars.

ButtDyno · 10-17-2005, 07:40 PM

Er. What do you use the car for? Why do you want coilovers?

Dentspeed · 10-17-2005, 08:04 PM

which is better: coilovers or just spring and shock combo w/o coilover adjusability?

ButtDyno · 10-17-2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dentspeed

which is better: coilovers or just spring and shock combo w/o coilover adjusability?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680651

z3coupe · 10-17-2005, 08:18 PM

You really should look hard at the KW V3's! Double adjustable, excellent valving (no need for mega spring rates to shatter your teeth), NO NOISES, no rebuilds needed, and lifetime warranty! And only $2000 (plus around $250 for the usual S&H and taxes). And because they are designed and made in Germany, they are closer to our road conditions and driving styles.

I switched from Zeals, and had Cusco Z2R on a previous WRX - will never look back after the KW's!

Arnie · 10-17-2005, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3coupe

And because they are designed and made in Germany, they are closer to our road conditions and driving styles.

Have you ever been to Germany?! their roads are nothing like our roads. Much smoother (except for the cobbled one's of course). Heck they actually have signs on the autobahn warning if there is a rough surface. For the surfaces they consider rough, I'd see a sign every quarter mile here in socal.

but what is important about the KW's is the "european" valving/spring rate philosophy behind them. basically polar opposite from the japanese. Mike Shields has been preaching this for years and Whiteline has as well with their Group 4's. One does not need stiff spring/damping rates. In the end, its about traction and you don't get any traction if you wheels/tires are bouncing over a surface and don't hook up.

z3coupe · 10-17-2005, 10:43 PM

Well, the Aussies ARE Euros - just the ones they shipped out ages ago

Just kidding! I love Australia, and someday hope to get there! But Arnie is right, and boy, Mike Shields, that is a name from some time ago! Is he still around?

Arnie · 10-17-2005, 11:09 PM

too funny, they're just a bunch of ex cons! I'll need to tell that to Jim. Mike is still around, though haven't spoken to him for some time. Chris had good things to say about your KW's. I'll need to get ride one of these days. I've been running 6/5k springs on my Group 4's for the past month. I think I'll try 6/4k this weekend and see how that feels.

Arnie · 10-17-2005, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turn in Concepts

Anyway to answer your question look into the Zeals. Myles at racecomp or gtworx or whatever is next can hook you up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beilei

Thanks, I actually want Jap spec coilovers.
I was just wondering which coilovers 05 STi owners settled on..

Erm, Zeals are Japanese, dude!

z3coupe · 10-18-2005, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by beilei
Thanks, I actually want Jap spec coilovers.
I was just wondering which coilovers 05 STi owners settled on..

Erm, Zeals are Japanese, dude!

Worse yet, we just TOLD him which are the better ones (Group 4 or KW V3). Why does he want JDM? For the bragging rights? Oh hey d00ds, I got JDM, YEAH! (smiling to show his broken and chipped teeth from 20/18 spring rates in his super duper fresh off da boat Japan market coilovers)

Carbon888 · 10-18-2005, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3coupe

Worse yet, we just TOLD him which are the better ones (Group 4 or KW V3). Why does he want JDM? For the bragging rights? Oh hey d00ds, I got JDM, YEAH! (smiling to show his broken and chipped teeth from 20/18 spring rates in his super duper fresh off da boat Japan market coilovers)

Thanks for telling me Zeal is Jap but I said
Originally Posted by beilei
Thanks, I actually want Jap spec coilovers
was way before the G4 and your Kw v3 posts.

After someone mentioned G4, I looked into them and found that they're the ones for me. That's why I decided to go with them even though they're not JDM.

z3coupe · 10-18-2005, 02:40 AM

Just ragging on ya as Arnie did. Good choice, they are pretty similar in many ways. And though your teeth will love ya for it, your dentist won't

10-11-2005, 10:08 PM	#1
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ChrisF Scooby Specialist Member#: 12295 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Granada Hills, CA	If you want it to handle like an Elise, remove approx. 1200lbs.

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Turn in Concepts NASIOC Vendor Member#: 93646 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: Many Track Records Let us help you go fast!	Not much out there will handle like an Elise. That's what makes it so special. Anyway to answer your question look into the Zeals. Myles at racecomp or gtworx or whatever is next can hook you up.

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vwown3d Scooby Specialist Member#: 69991 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: USA Vehicle: Leh Keen Approved	lol 12oo lbs is a lot to lose! jic? possibly

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Dentspeed Scooby Newbie Member#: 75360 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: E. TN Vehicle: 2004 STi silver	which is better: coilovers or just spring and shock combo w/o coilover adjusability?

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z3coupe Scooby Specialist Member#: 13540 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dallas Vehicle: 2006 MKV GTI Black	Just ragging on ya as Arnie did. Good choice, they are pretty similar in many ways. And though your teeth will love ya for it, your dentist won't