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Old 08-27-2001, 03:15 PM   #1
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Default Best (Worst) trip to Canada

The worst day in Canada....<br>

Took a day off of work to go up to Victoria with my girlfriend. Got across the border, Phew! no problems there.<br> About a mile or two down the road, right by the "Welcome to Surrey", my car jerked and jerked and jerked. All my lights came on. and pulled off to the side of the road. I couldn't figure out what happened... Tried to start the car, grrrgh grrgh grrgh (metal grinding sound) <br>
Called AAA and had me tow over to a Subaru Dealership in Langley. They took the car apart, and found that the bolt holding the pulley broke inside, and made the timing belt come forward. From what they said, most likely, the timing belt skipped couple times, and maybe bent a couple valves... please please, not the valves!!!! <br>
I saw the plastic cover that covers the pulley, and whoa!!! You can actually see the track of the timing belt burned into the plastic. It was actually bubbling on the other side.
So, here I was, stuck in Canada with a limp car, called Mike at Smart Sevice in Seattle, arranged a flatbed truck to take my car back to Seattle... $300 CAD. <br>

Still waiting for Mike to call me back on the damage....

<b>Lessons learned:</b><br>
1) Become a member of AAA or CAA<br>
2) If you're already a member, upgrade to the plus level. It covers 100 miles for towing.<br>
3) Have your cellphone ready at all times!!!<br>
4) Don't skip work for a day in another country... It's not worth it.
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Old 08-27-2001, 09:08 PM   #2
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Default Re: Best (Worst) trip to Canada

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The worst day in Canada....<br>

Called AAA and had me tow over to a Subaru Dealership in Langley. They took the car apart, and found that the bolt holding the pulley broke inside, and made the timing belt come forward. From what they said, most likely, the timing belt skipped couple times, and maybe bent a couple valves... please please, not the valves!!!! <br>
If you have the DOHC engine, you may indeed be in for some valve issues I just had a similar experience with my 89 RX. where the bolt holding one of the timing belt pulleys on loosened, and allowed the belt to jump several notches. However, that particular engine being non-interference, I had zero (none, zip, nothing) damage, even after cranking and cranking, hoping irrationally that it would start...
Good luck...
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Old 08-27-2001, 10:17 PM   #3
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Sombody please help me out here. I understand that Hundah uses an interference engine if the timeing belt breaks or is damaged you are S.O.L.
What is the Soob Phase I and Phase II 2.5s? What exactly is the difference between a non-interpherence and one that interferes?
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Old 08-27-2001, 10:59 PM   #4
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I believe all modern Subaru engines are non-interference so your valves should be all right. If you look at the pistons they have cutouts in them to clear the valves in case the timing belt brakes and some of the valves get stuck in the open position.

With an interference engine, if the timing belt breaks and the valves are stuck open when the piston reaches TDC the piston can strike the valves and bend them.

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Old 08-28-2001, 01:03 AM   #5
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@###$!!!! I went and visited Mike at the shop and found that 2 of my cylinders have 0 compression. They took out the spark plugs, the 2 on the passenger side is ok. The driver's side ones... BLACK!!! Crap!!! Since mine is a 16V, I have possibilities of 8 valves... oooh, the headaches...
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Old 08-28-2001, 02:12 AM   #6
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The phase II EJ25's are non-interfearance, although this was explained to me as being true, 95% of the time. Go figure. As for the phase I, they are interfearance engines....
I don't know about the EJ20 or EJ22.
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:56 AM   #7
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ooh... this sucks... Since mine is a Phase I engine, the valves are shot.

And of course, since 2 of my cylinders are ok, I have 8 valves to choose one. hmmm, eeny meeny miney moe.

Subaru should start making rubber valves. So when the piston hits it, BOING! ...
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Old 08-28-2001, 11:32 AM   #8
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doh, sorry to hear your engine is toast. but you can rebuild the car.. better.. stronger.. faster..
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Old 08-28-2001, 05:50 PM   #9
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Just found out that I bent 2 exhaust valves. 1 per cylinder. Damage is ~$1K or a bit lower...

What can I say... not due to reckless driving, and couldn't have been prevented. So, I guess this is the price we pay.
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Old 08-28-2001, 11:16 PM   #10
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How many miles and mods or on the motor?
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Old 08-29-2001, 12:37 AM   #11
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So far, I am running 74K. I have a Intake and APEXi Megaphone Dunk series exhaust system.
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