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Old 12-07-2005, 04:41 PM   #251
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if you can order them from japan, anyone go a link to where they can be ordered from?

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Old 12-07-2005, 05:00 PM   #252
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Here are some nice picture's of my lovely oil filter, with a lot #F10921E1.




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Well it just happened to me.


Got my oil changed at the dealer with 9000 miles on the car a little back. It now has 10,000 miles on it.

Story,

Started the car Monday 12/5 let it warm a little and went to lunch. When I got home I noticed the oil in the drive way, looked under the car and didn't see anything. 12/6 started car and let it warm up, moved forward and look for oil and found nothing on the drive way. That night let the car warm moved up some got out and seen oil. 12/7 started car let it warm up moved forward and got out oil in a spot under the car.

Went right to the dealer and they can't look at the car till Monday at 10am, so I went home jacked the car up remove a couple of bolt to the plastic thing under the engine, looked at the oil filter and it's got oil running down it.


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A little update on mine, got a call back and I have a new appointment for this Friday at 10am.

I'll keep you'll posted as to the out come.

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Old 12-07-2005, 10:11 PM   #253
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A class-action lawsuite would be nice... the suite would be filed for just pure stupidity on SoA's part and request termination of anyone involved at SoA that made the oil filter change happen to save a buck.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:58 AM   #254
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Do you mean the the F11 stamp (lettering) was improper and the filter was from an earlier, troubled, batch? Or do you mean that the F11 batch is also improperly made ?
I meant to say that the oil filters on my car were improperly made. I apologize for the confusion. The one the dealer replaced the other day leaked yesterday. So I took it back, went with the mechanic into the bay and we changed the oil together. Hopefully, no more leaks. I really don't think it is excess oil draining from the oil cooler. I watched as the mechanic made sure he wiped and cleaned the seating area thoroughly.

I have had 2 oil filter changes in 2 days. 3 filters in 2 weeks.

The service department has informed me that they have been doing a lot of oil filter warranties. There was a forester and an outback in the ajoining bays that were having the oil filters swapped out as well. All F11 batch filters.
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:37 PM   #255
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A class-action lawsuite would be nice... the suite would be filed for just pure stupidity on SoA's part and request termination of anyone involved at SoA that made the oil filter change happen to save a buck.
I'm sure that if SOA doesn't treat its customers right in this situation, it will suffer just fine on its own. Besides, we'd be better off sending the class-action lawyers to Iraq to sue the insurgency there.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:16 PM   #256
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2 days ago I had my 30k service done... and low and behold 1 day later, oil leaking under the car. Going back in today to get it replaced...
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:18 PM   #257
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my purolater pure one doesnt leak. GO OEM!!!!
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:22 PM   #258
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I also switched to a Purolator Pure One (temporarily just to get the leak stopped). I wouldn't go so far as to say it's actually better, but for those of you who haven't been able to find a source for the original black filters, the Pure One seems like a pretty decent replacement to me.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:33 PM   #259
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regarding the issues with the 15208AA09A F08,09,10 filters.

I have an F07 (part stated as not affected) and an F08 and visually they look identical, profile height of the seal ring, shape of the ring everything.

So what was the specific issue with the F08,09,10 filters?

I have installed a F07 in one Subaru and an F08 in another and so far had no problems.

One thing I did notice and someone can tell me if this is normal, is that the seal looks like a rounded off bump ie not flat, on other filters ie Wix or Fram the seal area is flat.

Anyone shed some light?
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:59 AM   #260
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my purolater pure one doesnt leak. GO OEM!!!!
The new OEM 09A filters are made by Purolator... so I wouldn't exactly toot that horn too loudly.

As for why it leaks... it's that stupidly small seal that it has. It's not large enough to put up with the pressure the filter sees and after constant heating and cooling it seeps a little. In my book, anything other then the Tokyo Roki filters are JUNK.
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Old 12-11-2005, 05:43 PM   #261
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So what was the specific issue with the F08,09,10 filters?

I have installed a F07 in one Subaru and an F08 in another and so far had no problems.
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It's not clear what the specific issue is, however it does seem clear that not every filter (and likely not even most) in the F08/F09/F10 series causes problems. The problem does seem to appear shortly after installation. Most likely, it's a quality control problem.
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:44 PM   #262
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The new OEM 09A filters are made by Purolator... so I wouldn't exactly toot that horn too loudly.

As for why it leaks... it's that stupidly small seal that it has. It's not large enough to put up with the pressure the filter sees and after constant heating and cooling it seeps a little. In my book, anything other then the Tokyo Roki filters are JUNK.

the purolator pureone seal is much bigger than that little seal on the OEM filters. look at one in a parts store.
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:39 PM   #263
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Just to add to all this fun, I just installed a F11 series filter and it's leaking. So SOAs fix might not have worked.
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:57 AM   #264
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^read my post #254

I'm on my fourth, that's right 1..2..3..4, filters in the past two weeks. All F11 filters. Oh yea, this one is leaking too. I give up! I just keep a couple quarts of mobil 1 in the car. The leak is very minor, yet it still is frustrating to say the least.
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:03 AM   #265
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the purolator pureone seal is much bigger than that little seal on the OEM filters. look at one in a parts store.
Yeah, I know, but it's still a cheap filter compared to my Tokyo Roki's.
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:06 AM   #266
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^read my post #254

I'm on my fourth, that's right 1..2..3..4, filters in the past two weeks. All F11 filters. Oh yea, this one is leaking too. I give up! I just keep a couple quarts of mobil 1 in the car. The leak is very minor, yet it still is frustrating to say the least.
so the question is, why do you keep putting an OEM filter on?

Get a Purolator PureOne.
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:13 AM   #267
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I've used purolator's Pure One on every vehicle i've owned ever, hasn't let me down yet and still goin to use it from here on out.

So you can blow me Jrsccivic98, I hope your lifetime supply of subaru oem filters doesn't seep on you. hahahah

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Old 12-12-2005, 12:03 PM   #268
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I'll probably just put a Pure One on for now but I was thinking, has anyone checked out any Saab dealers to see if they still have some Tokyo Roki's in stock still. Assuming the saabaru was using those.
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Old 12-12-2005, 04:41 PM   #269
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I've used purolator's Pure One on every vehicle i owned never, hasn't let me down yet and still goin to use it from here on out.

So you can blow me Jrsccivic98, I hope your lifetime supply of subaru oem filters doesn't seep on you. hahahah
You're just jealous because you saw all those pretty filters sitting in a box at my house.
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:12 PM   #270
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Well one's first hand experience recently

SOA told our shop that we wern't tightening them enough. There is supposibly a torque specification, and that is around 10 ft/lbs.

I myself, don't feel that is safe for the threads of the oil filter. I think there is only 2 to 3 threads that are holding the filter when I screwed one on.

Sure enough, no one, not even the big guys, could achieve that torque by hand. After that, we stuck a torque wrench on it and it turned 1/4 more before clicking. The diameter of the filter may be a problem for most hands. Supposibly, only a few techs actually had the ability to tightened them enough. They seemed to taller types.

Keep in mind, from what I understand, our parts department relayed that message to us when they were told by SOA. I'm just passing on the news.

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Old 12-12-2005, 05:13 PM   #271
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hehe...i've got a big box full of Tokyo Roki's sitting in my garage. Boy am I glad I got them now.
<--- hoping this is all resolved within the next 2 years
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:32 PM   #272
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Well great, I just bought a F10 filter at the dealership. Guess I'm going to take it back and get a PureOne.
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:45 PM   #273
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:11 PM   #274
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Now what is wrong with using the 060s? I mean we used the 060s for about 3 years on the WRX before Subaru even made the change to the 080s and then the 100s. Even today, I still use the 060s on my WRX without any problems.
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Old 12-12-2005, 08:28 PM   #275
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Well one's first hand experience recently

SOA told our shop that we wern't tightening them enough. There is supposibly a torque specification, and that is around 10 ft/lbs.

I myself, don't feel that is safe for the threads of the oil filter. I think there is only 2 to 3 threads that are holding the filter when I screwed one on.

Sure enough, no one, not even the big guys, could achieve that torque by hand. After that, we stuck a torque wrench on it and it turned 1/4 more before clicking. The diameter of the filter may be a problem for most hands. Supposibly, only a few techs actually had the ability to tightened them enough. They seemed to taller types.

Keep in mind, from what I understand, our parts department relayed that message to us when they were told by SOA. I'm just passing on the news.

-paK +1
No offense but sounds like crap to me. I have never even heard of using a torque wrench on a oil filter and have never put on a oil filter more than hand tight. There is no way this sounds like a good idea....didn't Honda blame the whole gasket seperation fiasco on over-tightened oil filters?
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