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Old 10-27-2005, 05:46 PM   #51
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Is there someplace the specific serial numbers are documented? I bought two from my local dealer last weekend. They were aware of the problem with the filters and indicated that they pulled all the problem filters yet when I bought the filters they were F10 serial numbers. When I called back, they said that they were only selling the 'new' shipment from Subaru and they didn't know what serial numbers were effected. I'd like to get new filters but if I can't convince them the ones I have are bad, I don't think they're going to give me new ones!
If they are unused, just return them...have your reciept?
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:47 PM   #52
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Hey Jamie, I still have a bunch of the old ones...Part # 15208AA100. Are the new ones better, or should I just use these up?
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:50 PM   #53
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Hey Jamie, I still have a bunch of the old ones...Part # 15208AA100. Are the new ones better, or should I just use these up?

if you don't want them i'll take them....


















they're still good.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:02 PM   #54
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just went to dealer today, doing oil this weekend.....

stamp on top of filter says f10r19e1

should i take this thing back or what?
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:12 PM   #55
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^^^

Its been said like 403938495895 times that batch F10 is a bad batch.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:16 PM   #56
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Its been said like 403938495895 times that batch F10 is a bad batch.


argh.

the one time i decide to use an OEM oil filter, i get pwned.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:43 PM   #57
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Its been said like 403938495895 times that batch F10 is a bad batch.
well, not really.....as Jamie has not posted the serial numbers from the "new" shipment from subaru. Maybe the new shipment is F10 as well, just different numbers at the end....

food for thought.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:58 PM   #58
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Does nobody read this thread?

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yes those ones are okay

F08, 09, 10 - - -according to Subaru
were the affected filters...


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check the serial ## on the filter.

if it has F08, F09, F10... it is NOT the updated one

hell.. we only just GOT the updated ones last week.

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Old 10-28-2005, 02:01 AM   #59
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UM....

actually the black version is much smaller than the 09A

When I put the two side by side, my white one (09a) was marginally taller (< 1/4") than the black one (100) and substantially narrower on the cross-section, looking down on the two filters as positioned in the pic above.
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:40 AM   #60
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I think mine is leaking too... batch # starts with F07... I get out of my car and I can SMELL oil... this is BS... I'm pissed!

I like the black filters! If I knew they were going to do this I would have purchased 3 cases of them months ago... aRG!

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Old 10-28-2005, 01:02 PM   #61
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Has anyone cut open a 'good' new one yet to compare?
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Old 10-30-2005, 04:00 PM   #62
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I have an F09.. This thread should be a sticky! This is going back to the dealer next week.
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Old 10-30-2005, 04:37 PM   #63
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i just got a purolater pureone. looks exactlye like the subaru one, except it has a better gasket design. i bet the gasket is the problem on the subarue ones. its really small
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Old 10-30-2005, 06:30 PM   #64
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i just got a purolater pureone. looks exactlye like the subaru one, except it has a better gasket design. i bet the gasket is the problem on the subarue ones. its really small
From the descriptions above, it seems more like a problem in the metal shell; in any case, the PureOnes are nice filters, but do have a different bypass valve pressure setting than the OEM ones.
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:53 PM   #65
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From the descriptions above, it seems more like a problem in the metal shell; in any case, the PureOnes are nice filters, but do have a different bypass valve pressure setting than the OEM ones.

do you have more info on the pressure setting, i am considering switching to pure one.
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:39 AM   #66
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Does the different pressure setting really matter?
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:41 AM   #67
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Does the different pressure setting really matter?
i highly doubt it. you are certainly not going to blow up your car using a non-oem oil filter.
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:21 AM   #68
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i highly doubt it. you are certainly not going to blow up your car using a non-oem oil filter.

No, but over time you may develop an oil leak because the pressure will eventually blow out the front engine seals. Alot of the cars we see with front engine seals leaking have aftermarket filters on them. This has also been proven by Subaru thru research. Thats why if you ask someone about the older Subaru's they will say they always developed oil leaks.
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:13 AM   #69
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No, but over time you may develop an oil leak because the pressure will eventually blow out the front engine seals. Alot of the cars we see with front engine seals leaking have aftermarket filters on them. This has also been proven by Subaru thru research. Thats why if you ask someone about the older Subaru's they will say they always developed oil leaks.

Is the pressure bypass REALLY that drastic? I mean, it's not like it's bypassing at all times. Cold starts and usually WOT runs when the pressure is building up quickly.

I just can't see a non-oem filter blowing up engines. Wouldn't crankcase ventilation (PCV, etc) have a part to play in this as well (seals).

And upon searching, I can find the PureOne bypass pressure. Can you provide me with the OEM bypass pressure?

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Old 10-31-2005, 12:19 PM   #70
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Is the pressure bypass REALLY that drastic? I mean, it's not like it's bypassing at all times. Cold starts and usually WOT runs when the pressure is building up quickly.

I just can't see a non-oem filter blowing up engines. Wouldn't crankcase ventilation (PCV, etc) have a part to play in this as well (seals).

And upon searching, I can find the PureOne bypass pressure. Can you provide me with the OEM bypass pressure?

Ehh, were you listening to rexygirl? it happens over time. Which means the difference is not drastic, but enough to cause a problem. And she did not say its gonna cause your engine to blow...just not run as well for as long. I definitely don't mean to be rude, but it seems that what she said "went in one ear and out the other."
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Ehh, were you listening to rexygirl? it happens over time. Which means the difference is not drastic, but enough to cause a problem. And she did not say its gonna cause your engine to blow...just not run as well for as long. I definitely don't mean to be rude, but it seems that what she said "went in one ear and out the other."
I'm not one to just listen to word of mouth. Show me the hard proof, and I'll accept it :-)

I know what the pressure bypass PSI is for the PureOne, what is it for the OEM filter, also made by purolator?

Thanks
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:46 PM   #72
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I'm not one to just listen to word of mouth. Show me the hard proof, and I'll accept it :-)

I know what the pressure bypass PSI is for the PureOne, what is it for the OEM filter, also made by purolator?

Thanks

Fair enough. I have no idea what the pressure is on the oem...what is it on the PureOne? Perhaps someone knows what the OEM bypass PSI is...? Hmm, this just made me think, I wonder if the pressure is different 'tween the old black ones and the new white ones.

Rexygirl...would you happen to have a link where we could look at the research (on related info) Subaru did?
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IIRC, oem bypass pressure is 23 psi.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:30 PM   #74
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i just got a purolater pureone. looks exactlye like the subaru one, except it has a better gasket design. i bet the gasket is the problem on the subarue ones. its really small
The problem isn't the gasket, it's the way the filter case was clamped to the base, it leaks there.
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Old 10-31-2005, 02:14 PM   #75
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Fair enough. I have no idea what the pressure is on the oem...what is it on the PureOne? Perhaps someone knows what the OEM bypass PSI is...? Hmm, this just made me think, I wonder if the pressure is different 'tween the old black ones and the new white ones.

Rexygirl...would you happen to have a link where we could look at the research (on related info) Subaru did?

According to Purolators site, the bypass pressure on the PureOne for the WRX is 14-18psi
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