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Old 10-13-2005, 12:24 PM   #1
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Default APS DR65 + Dyno Comp Tune (AZ)

As soon as I get my webpage up and running i will host the charts, but until then i will just post the info that i have.


Setup: 05 STi Arizona
Stock Internals, Heads, and Gearset
APS DR 65 Turbo Kit (Turbo, Intake, Upipe, etc.) (Internally Gated)
Modified (split) stock fuel rails
740cc Injectors
Walboro Fuel Pump
APS TGV Delete
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APS 725 Fnt Mnt IC
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Apexi AVCR Boost Controller
Exedy Twin Plate Clutch
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Rev Limit 8k RPM
Max Boost 24/25psi
Temp probably around the mid 80's in his shop yesterday

Shell 100oct 450whp @ 6k rpm and around 24/25lbs of boost on a conservative tune (according to Rich) on a dyno dynamics dyno. We could have gotten more out of it, but 450whp is plenty for me right now knowing that Rich's (dyno comp) dyno reads some what lower than your average dyno jet or even mustang dyno (im sure az people would agree with me here) i figure that i could be somewhere in the 500whp range on other dyno's. Since I just dropped my latest load of money on parts I won't push it much more until im ready to drop in forged internals, since this car is still my daily driver. I am going to drive around with 100oct for another week or so and run the car at firebird raceway's SCO night October 22 to see what kind of times I can throw out there (providing i don't drive like a chump). Then its back to the 91 oct map that should be good for around 370/380ish on his dyno, im sure i will get plenty spoiled on this 100oct over the next 2 weeks, which is leading me to seriously investigating alchy/meth and water injection.

Not much problems with the internal gate as of yet, i have the option to go external if it causes me problems.

For now i have a noise frnt brake thats causing me some trouble that i have to go take care of!!!!!!
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:27 PM   #2
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Very nice #'s!!! And is it safe to rev a stock motor to 8k??!!
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:29 PM   #3
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Por que the 8K rev limit on stock stuff?
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:29 PM   #4
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Oh and for those of you wondering about the infamous Lag, for me its not bad the turbo starts coming on strong around 4kRPM and hits hard climbing straight to max boost almost instantly for me this is not a problem, thats where the 6spd tranny comes into play it alows me to keep the turbo close to boil around town if i feel like getting on it. Charts forthcoming....
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:33 PM   #5
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Those are good numbers. The last DR Series turbo we did came out to a tad bit over 400, i think it was like ~405 on 91. 450 is about what I had expected on 100. Congrats on the setup
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:35 PM   #6
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Well i was reving my 02 wrx up to 7650 or so for about 20k miles and never had any issues, needless to say im sure its not the best thing for the stock motor, but just because I have a 8k rev limit does not mean i have to use it although i will say with this set up you have to be ready to shift or you will hit that 8k redline fairly fast.
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:40 PM   #7
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Oh and for those of you wondering about the infamous Lag, for me its not bad the turbo starts coming on strong around 4kRPM and hits hard climbing straight to max boost almost instantly for me this is not a problem, thats where the 6spd tranny comes into play it alows me to keep the turbo close to boil around town if i feel like getting on it. Charts forthcoming....
Come to the kingpin dyno day and throw it on to see what it makes on another dyno..

8k huh..
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:44 PM   #8
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is it safe to rev a stock motor to 8k??!!
Thats a pretty hard question to answer with out you defining 'safe' in detail. I don't think he is risking bodily harm. Also, I don't think the bearings will last 250,000 miles. DSM motrs can rev to 8k all day long. But the first DSMers all sat around wondering.... "I wonder when she gonna blow up?"

Bump for another high rev'er helping the rest of us understand....

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690248
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:46 PM   #9
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I dont understand the 8K rev limit myself....none of the stock wrx heads/motors make power over without dropping over 7.2-7.4 K regadless of what turbo you have. I dont even rev my ver 7 to 8k, cause of the power drop off.

But congrats on the power.


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Old 10-13-2005, 12:58 PM   #10
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-Scoobs your right there is power drop off, so like i said a rev limiter is just that a limiter its not a mark that you HAVE to take your car to every time, don't worry boys i don't plan on jamming the needle off 8k if i can help it.

-Cronic i was seriously thinking about checking out what i could put down out there at dynochip just to compare, I will see if i can make it out there but i am pretty booked up that weekend
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:02 PM   #11
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-Scoobs your right there is power drop off, so like i said a rev limiter is just that a limiter its not a mark that you HAVE to take your car to every time, don't worry boys i don't plan on jamming the needle off 8k if i can help it.

-Cronic i was seriously thinking about checking out what i could put down out there at dynochip just to compare, I will see if i can make it out there but i am pretty booked up that weekend
Well whatever time works for u i can put you on. It only takes 20 min
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:09 PM   #12
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Clark right?


I will try and make it out sometime on its what the 22nd of october? I have a bunch of friends in town though, and we are going to run out at firebird that night, I will see if they don't mind watching my car being dyno'd
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:14 PM   #13
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Clark right?


I will try and make it out sometime on its what the 22nd of october? I have a bunch of friends in town though, and we are going to run out at firebird that night, I will see if they don't mind watching my car being dyno'd
I am Dave..

Ok well let me know what time would work and i can give you that slot. I would like to see the difference.
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:18 PM   #14
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Ah sry Dave my mistake too many post reviews will do that to ya, anyways I will let you know something when I find out if i can make it over, I too would like to see the difference. Just for kicks
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:38 PM   #15
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Ok its been awhile since ive done this but from what i recall it goes like this....









Pics resized!

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Old 10-13-2005, 02:10 PM   #16
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You are welcome. That was just because that was my dream setup (the DR65) and I was 1K short of being able to afford it haha...enjoy...

now someone show me the code to make it small? Freakin huge!

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Old 10-13-2005, 02:17 PM   #17
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congrats...nice numbers. You should bring it to a meet. Any handling or brake mods?
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:29 PM   #18
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I dont understand the 8K rev limit myself....none of the stock wrx heads/motors make power over without dropping over 7.2-7.4 K regadless of what turbo you have. I dont even rev my ver 7 to 8k, cause of the power drop off.

But congrats on the power.


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there are some stock head sti motors making power all the way to redline.
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Old 10-13-2005, 03:05 PM   #19
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Yeah sorry about the large size not sure what happened they were originally scanned as a pdf and converted to jpg, also thank you much keyzer for fixing that up, my forum days have long past until recently and i did not recall how to get those pics live. Actually it looks like you have 2 copies of the afr chart!

-shemoves no suspension mods as of yet (this is my next step) Picking up some new pads tonight, still undecided on what pads I want to run.

**something else to mention the charts read "04 STi stage 1" I think Rich forgot to change the title blocks when he started tuning my car so it titled my charts with the information from his previous tune. No Fib though these are my charts!
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Old 10-13-2005, 03:24 PM   #20
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Zrex - I also have an '05 STI. If you don't mind my asking, as I'm beginning to mod mine with ECU reflash and TBE with about 280hp on Mustang Dyno, would would you estimate it cost to do your set up?
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Old 10-13-2005, 03:27 PM   #21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zrex11
As soon as I get my webpage up and running i will host the charts, but until then i will just post the info that i have.


Setup: 05 STi Arizona
Stock Internals, Heads, and Gearset
APS DR 65 Turbo Kit (Turbo, Intake, Upipe, etc.) (Internally Gated)
Modified (split) stock fuel rails
740cc Injectors
Walboro Fuel Pump
APS TGV Delete
APS 3.5" exhaust
APS 725 Fnt Mnt IC
APS BOV
Apexi AVCR Boost Controller
Exedy Twin Plate Clutch
EcuTek EM (dyno comp tuned)
Rev Limit 8k RPM
Max Boost 24/25psi
Temp probably around the mid 80's in his shop yesterday

Shell 100oct 450whp @ 6k rpm and around 24/25lbs of boost on a conservative tune (according to Rich) on a dyno dynamics dyno. We could have gotten more out of it, but 450whp is plenty for me right now knowing that Rich's (dyno comp) dyno reads some what lower than your average dyno jet or even mustang dyno (im sure az people would agree with me here) i figure that i could be somewhere in the 500whp range on other dyno's. Since I just dropped my latest load of money on parts I won't push it much more until im ready to drop in forged internals, since this car is still my daily driver. I am going to drive around with 100oct for another week or so and run the car at firebird raceway's SCO night October 22 to see what kind of times I can throw out there (providing i don't drive like a chump). Then its back to the 91 oct map that should be good for around 370/380ish on his dyno, im sure i will get plenty spoiled on this 100oct over the next 2 weeks, which is leading me to seriously investigating alchy/meth and water injection.

Not much problems with the internal gate as of yet, i have the option to go external if it causes me problems.

For now i have a noise frnt brake thats causing me some trouble that i have to go take care of!!!!!!
Congrats on your setup APS rule, you get what you pay for soon more people will get on the band wagon.
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:18 PM   #22
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Tuned also by Rich @ Dyno Comp, and I've been spinning mine to around 7600 with a 8k rev limit now for over 5 months now with no issues. And yes you will make more WHP on AZ Dynochip's Dynojet. When my turbo was in the previous owner's STi it did 408 on Rich's then pulled like 430WHP on AZ Dynochip's. Since being catted I put a little less down, laying down 403 on 100 octane. Good luck with your STi, I saw it there the other day, and everything looked very clean. You will be very happy!
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:36 PM   #23
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Ebeck saw only 7whp differnce between the two on the same day IIRC. I wanna see how one of these dr cars does.
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:53 PM   #24
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Re-sized them for ya


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Old 10-13-2005, 08:40 PM   #25
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Yea I`d Like to see that Dr65 Kit hit 500whp on any Dyno in AZ!!
hehe I`ll do my best to show you guys 600whp Real SoOn!!!
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