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Old 10-30-2005, 08:10 PM   #1
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Default HID question.......

probably asked buncha times.....

are those companies that say the hid conversion kits are plug and play really plug and play, sounds too easy to convert my halogens to hids, so im wonderin, thanks in advance
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:18 PM   #2
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I'd like to know also so I have an alternative to the $JDM$ lights. I was going to take the plunge and get the UK300s in the spring, but a conversion would be cool if it's easily done for less denero.
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:02 PM   #3
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its plug and play for the most part, all you need to do is plug in the wires and the put in the bulbs and put them on... the hardest part would be connecting the positive and negative connection in to the stock socket
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:07 PM   #4
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:29 PM   #5
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try to remember that you get what you pay for, those halogen base'd D2S kits throw a LOT of glare and very little usable light...

you know that guy who drives by in a car with lights that aren't legal, safe, or functional? the one who blinds everyone because he was to cheap to do his lighting right? yeah. don't be that guy.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:01 AM   #6
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the ones im getting are retailed at 900, i dont think thats cheap
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:45 AM   #7
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For that kind of money, just buy a set of used 04 or 05 STi HID headlights and do it the right way. Trust me, I had a Catz HID kit on my 04 WRX just long enough to realize how horrible the beam pattern was.
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:51 AM   #8
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yeah if your getting a $900 HID kit, your better off getting HID OEM headlights... even though it will not be plug and play
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:55 AM   #9
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^^^ or why not ge the STI headlamps? They already are HID.
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:15 PM   #10
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For that kind of money, just buy a set of used 04 or 05 STi HID headlights and do it the right way. Trust me, I had a Catz HID kit on my 04 WRX just long enough to realize how horrible the beam pattern was.
there retailed at 900, im gettin it under 350, if i was paying 900, i woulda just put in the extra 200 and got the sti headlights
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:17 PM   #11
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just found a site with a beam pattern, doesnt look too bad

http://saab92x.com/viewtopic.php?id=1445&p=2

and it doesnt look blinding to oncomming traffic
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:36 PM   #12
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just found a site with a beam pattern, doesnt look too bad

http://saab92x.com/viewtopic.php?id=1445&p=2

and it doesnt look blinding to oncomming traffic
cameras are real bad about catching glare on film....it is usually to dim to bet caught onfilm, but the effect on the eye is a lot greater. i wouldn't really trust digital cameras when it come to lights. i have yellow bulbs all the way around. anytime i take pictures they come out white. the camera gets the white light, but the eyes see so much more. in the same token, the eyes see more glare. just by seeing how high those lights look focused i would venture to say oncoming traffic will have a lot of problems with that.
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:56 PM   #13
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just found a site with a beam pattern, doesnt look too bad
...but in reality it will be. Do your homework before buying a HID kit. Putting HID bulbs into reflector housings designed for halogen bulbs will result on a very poor beam pattern for a HID light. Don't listen to the sales pitch that explains how the light source location will remain the same - it doesn't matter. You will get a central 'hot spot' in the beam pattern with a lot of scatter around it. Not to mention that they are not legal, so when that little old lady smashes into you and all she can tell the police about is the aweful blinding glare she experienced right before she hit you.....well, enough preaching.
If you want to put HIDs in your car the right way, simply buy the STi headlights. I have done both, and I would never even consider an aftermarket HID kit again.
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:18 PM   #14
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...but in reality it will be. Do your homework before buying a HID kit. Putting HID bulbs into reflector housings designed for halogen bulbs will result on a very poor beam pattern for a HID light. Don't listen to the sales pitch that explains how the light source location will remain the same - it doesn't matter. You will get a central 'hot spot' in the beam pattern with a lot of scatter around it. Not to mention that they are not legal, so when that little old lady smashes into you and all she can tell the police about is the aweful blinding glare she experienced right before she hit you.....well, enough preaching.
If you want to put HIDs in your car the right way, simply buy the STi headlights. I have done both, and I would never even consider an aftermarket HID kit again.
these bulbs say they have a d2r film or something on the bulb. and i did do my homework prior
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:56 PM   #15
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D2R HID bulbs have a mask printed on them to reduce glare when used in reflector housings. However they are only intended for use in housings designed for HID. The halogen housings in the WRX/RS are designed for use with halogen bulbs only and are not suitable for HID bulbs due to their increased light output and different dispersion pattern.
At first glance the light housings of the halogen Impreza lights and the HID STi lights may appear to be identical, but they are NOT. If you compare them closely side-by-side, you will see that the reflector segments are shaped differently.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:24 PM   #16
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This all depends on where you live. I live in vegas. The city is always bright. Do I care about beam pattern, and glare? No I just care about some nice colored headlights. If I live in BFE and was on the road by myself all the time it would be worth the money.
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:05 PM   #17
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This all depends on where you live. I live in vegas. The city is always bright. Do I care about beam pattern, and glare? No I just care about some nice colored headlights. If I live in BFE and was on the road by myself all the time it would be worth the money.

Damn, this must be the most ignorant post I have ever read. YOU are blinding people with you "nice colored headlights". Do it right, or donít do it.
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:38 PM   #18
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I've had HID bulbs in my 2002 bugeye for over 3 years now. WAY better than stock for light on the road. I'm sure it throws more glare, and I've had to replace my stock fogs with Hella H500 driving lights since I no longer had high beams, but I have no desire to go back. My wife has a BMW 325i with the factory HID lights, and this is as good, though I am fairly sure other drivers might find it somewhat glaring. I never seem to get folks flashing me to lower them, so it must be OK...

And the only installation note is that I had to be sure the ballast was not electrically connected to the body of the car. This was the Eaglelight system from the 2002 group buy.
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:48 PM   #19
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:49 PM   #20
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This all depends on where you live. I live in vegas. The city is always bright. Do I care about beam pattern, and glare? No I just care about some nice colored headlights. If I live in BFE and was on the road by myself all the time it would be worth the money.
Agreed, I live in Brooklyn and everyone of my friends use 8000K or 10000K without any projectors or etc.. In such well lit areas it makes no difference. Im more worried about cars driving around with no lights.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:27 AM   #21
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if ur willing to spend the money and do it right, then get a used set of STi headlights! Safe and functional!!!!
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