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Old 01-15-2007, 12:47 AM   #51
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^^^ No offense taken. We're just chatting here, throwing around ideas, pros and cons. Its a good conversation. I DO think you have a good idea, its just not for me, since I want to disable the staged unlock and I DO want the key-on lockout.
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:30 AM   #52
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wiring a relay to this couresy honk part of the keyless module in the car, would still seem a much easier method to activating a trunk lock solenoid. Constant power in, ground out, courtest honk on the relays switch, and signal out to the solenoid and you can call it a day
Just thought of another issue. On my car (06 STI), if you open the trunk without first disabling the factory alarm, it will set off the alarm. Since the plan includes hitting the "lock" 3 times, the alarm will be armed at the same time the trunk is popped, setting off the alarm.
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:48 AM   #53
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I hope this is making sense because I think I am confusing myself a little...
Let me know if you have anymore questions.
Thanks its makes sense now. I do have another question. I'm investigating using a time delayed relay and have a question about the red and red/green wires.

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The Red wire sends an output signal with the first push of the remote unlock button. It is connected to the driver's side door.
The Red/Green wire sends an output signal with the second push of the remote unlock button. It is connect to the remaining 3 doors.
When the remote button is pressed twice are both wires engerized or just the red/green wire? Same question for when the interior unlock button.

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Old 01-17-2007, 08:51 PM   #54
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When the remote button is pressed twice are both wires engerized or just the red/green wire? Same question for when the interior unlock button.

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There are seperate pulses sent. On one push the red wire is "energized" (actually it is a negative pulse) this unlocks the driver's door. On the second push the red/green pulse is the only wire energized. (otherwise you would be unlocking the driver's door again)

Now for the interior buttons......
I really don't know for sure. I believe when you press the button on either door it activates BOTH wires unlocking all 4 doors. This is why I had to introduce and door switch defeat circuit for my trunk release (which I never actually installed, but via feedback it should work... I didn't find myself acidentally popping my trunk, I'm sure when it happens on the freeway at 85mph I'll curse myself, but hey hindsight is 20/20)

Nonetheless right now everytime I press my unlock button on the inside my trunk pops ....

Let me know if you need anymore help, and if you have a good camera take some pics so we can put them here. I'll host them if need be.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:20 AM   #55
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There are seperate pulses sent. On one push the red wire is "energized" (actually it is a negative pulse) this unlocks the driver's door. On the second push the red/green pulse is the only wire energized. (otherwise you would be unlocking the driver's door again)

Now for the interior buttons......
I really don't know for sure. I believe when you press the button on either door it activates BOTH wires unlocking all 4 doors. This is why I had to introduce and door switch defeat circuit for my trunk release (which I never actually installed, but via feedback it should work... I didn't find myself acidentally popping my trunk, I'm sure when it happens on the freeway at 85mph I'll curse myself, but hey hindsight is 20/20)

Nonetheless right now everytime I press my unlock button on the inside my trunk pops ....

Let me know if you need anymore help, and if you have a good camera take some pics so we can put them here. I'll host them if need be.
I used the diagram provided and I can't pop my trunk with the door unlock button on the inside, so it works. The ignition defeat thing is kind of redundant since my alarm doesn't let me unlock/lock or use panic mode when the car is on (If I remember correctly).
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:03 PM   #56
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EXCELENT!!
Maybe someday I'll tear back under the dash and wire in the extra relay. I'm glad to see that it worked. As for the ignition defeat thing, I agree, the remote is deactivated when the car is on, BUT it would prevent a malfunction (such as a short) from popping the trunk while the auto is on.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:08 PM   #57
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I used the diagram provided and I can't pop my trunk with the door unlock button on the inside, so it works. The ignition defeat thing is kind of redundant since my alarm doesn't let me unlock/lock or use panic mode when the car is on (If I remember correctly).
So which set of instructions did you follow?
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:58 AM   #58
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So which set of instructions did you follow?
Follow this diagram:

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Here is a diagram I drew up. I haven't tried it yet. Probably will this weekend. But it makes sense. Thanks HolyMaWah for the help.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:58 PM   #59
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You can follow the instructions from step one. If you look I have updated the diagrams as problems were fixed. As mentioned above, the diagram above is the correct one.

Best of luck.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:18 PM   #60
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any links to the soleniod and relays you used for it? I know they all work the same, but since I know your set up works....=)
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:02 AM   #61
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any links to the soleniod and relays you used for it? I know they all work the same, but since I know your set up works....=)
Here's the kit I'm about to order. I just need to decide on which power distribution block to go with. I need one for my future stereo install and plan on tapping into it for the soleniod.

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Old 01-30-2007, 12:34 AM   #62
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can someone help me confirm if the wiring is the same on the 06?

one more thing, after this mod, does the manual trunk release latch still work? the one beside the gas door latch.

one last thing..=) for the 12V source. Is there a proper way of tapping into it? Like a standard tapping point and where to add fuse(s)?

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Old 01-30-2007, 09:06 AM   #63
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can someone help me confirm if the wiring is the same on the 06?

one more thing, after this mod, does the manual trunk release latch still work? the one beside the gas door latch.

one last thing..=) for the 12V source. Is there a proper way of tapping into it? Like a standard tapping point and where to add fuse(s)?
The parts gregor used were the same as I used sans the relay socket, I just used crimp female connectors so I had more room to make the wires and I could choose the length etc

I can't confirm the wires are the same colors all though it's almost the same alarm so it should work. As long as you can unlock only the driver door with the first click and the remaining with the 2nd this will work.

The manual trunk release cable will still work unless you disconnect it for whatever reason you may have.

You should tap into the 12v source at the battery and fuse it within 12"... you shouldn't use the cigarette lighter wiring especially for the trunk solenoid because it draws a lot. Might as well make one correct tap and then use that for all the 12v's in the diagram
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:18 AM   #64
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Has anyone found what wire it is for the 3 button horn honk?

Thanks,
Mike

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Old 01-30-2007, 06:26 PM   #65
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Has anyone found what wire it is for the 3 button horn honk?
I don't think anyone is looking since opening your trunk after pressing lock 3 times will set your alarm off.
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:58 PM   #66
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I tried installing the same solenoid when I put my alarm in. We could not get it to pop the trunk however, it did not have enough strength. Could not figure it out so gave up.
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:00 PM   #67
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I tried installing the same solenoid when I put my alarm in. We could not get it to pop the trunk however, it did not have enough strength. Could not figure it out so gave up.
Gotta play with the length of the wire and the latch, I don't have any torsion bars for my lid and it still pops it (unlock)
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:08 PM   #68
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Gotta play with the length of the wire and the latch, I don't have any torsion bars for my lid and it still pops it (unlock)
We played with it for hours and could not figure it out. Made it real loose, real tight. It seemed to work find when we were testing it without the trunk down. As soon as we closed it, we heard it, but nothing. We cut up the water tank for the inter cooler sprayer and mounted the solenoid to that, then ran the cable right to the lock.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:13 PM   #69
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As for the solenoid, I tend to agree with ptirmal.. it can be a PITA to get it right, I have had the release work then a few weeks later, I hear teh "pop" and it doesn't release. What I did finally was take a short length of firm wire (clothes hanger) and bent it to attach to the trunk release sid. then I attached to solenoid to that, it makes it easier to adjust outside of that little space.

As for the 3rd press wire.... I didn't even know the car did that ... (so of course I just ran outside and tried, cool) but as stated it would set off your alarm, plus I like the fact that doors are unlocked... Also I HATED the dual stage lock, I was actually searching on how to defeat that, when I thought hmmm then I'll have an extra wire with a pulse... sure would like a remote trunk release....

As for the parts, they all look good, be careful with the double plug however, I ordered a couple (not sure from where, probably ebay) and they share a pos wire lead, so just be sure you plan on running your other relay off the same power source...

For the part of not using the cig lighter.... also the cig lighter shuts off with ignition (GREAT feature for my XM install, instant auto on-off) not so good for a power source to use when the car is off.

Sorry for the longwinded replies, hope everything helps.... feel free to ask more questions.. glad I can give back a mod after receiving so many GREAT ideas and help from NASIOC.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:26 AM   #70
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How/Where are you running the wires to the trunk?
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:13 AM   #71
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I used wire loom and ran it up the bar holding the trunk up... It's looks clean... I wanted to have the solenoid at the bottom and I could have but the latch was off a bit, and I didn't realize it... I ended up just mounting it in the top and drilling holes so I said I'd just leave it there...
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How/Where are you running the wires to the trunk?
I did the sound deadening a couple weeks ago and while I had the rear interior out I put the wire in. I ran the wire from the fuse box area under the dash, along the drivers side under the trim panel. Under the rear seat across to the other side. There's a bunch of wire from the dash that follows this route, so I just zip tied to it. The wire crosses the seat then goes up on the passenger side up toward the strut top. There's a small passthrough above the strut top. I passed the wire through that spot and ran it along the existing wire, zip tieing every foot or so. I also covered it in wire loom to protect it. Lots of extra slack on both ends in case I need it.

Having the rear interior completely out made this pretty easy. You could do it by removing the rear seat and the trim pieces on driver side.

I plan on finishing this up a couple weeks. I'll take some pics along the way.
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Very cool man, thanks!
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:09 AM   #74
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Follow this diagram:

question about the yellow door switch wire, is this at 12V resting and pulled to ground when you press the unlock button?

the red/green wire from plug rest on ground and pulled to 12V when button is pressed?
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:24 AM   #75
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I don't remember what does what anymore, IIRC I believe the yellow rests at ground and at switch turns hot... the red/green wire is the one you're trying to power to unlock the remaining doors...
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