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Old 02-02-2013, 06:39 PM   #5001
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So how long should I wait after bringing water to a boil? I keep reading different things and the thermometer I have tells me boiling water is 190F .
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:52 PM   #5002
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Buy a new thermometer.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:18 PM   #5003
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Honestly, it's not subjective at all. If you pulled shots with a mazzer, or wbc grinder, back to back with your Bodum, you would see an easily discernible, massive difference. Going g from my baratza maestro plus to the super jolly was crazy. My first shot blew my mind. Why? More even grind particle size and fewer fines. This equals a more even extraction with less over extraction, and less bitter off flavors.

That's what you get when you buy a better grinder, in addition to better build quality and longevity: tighter tolerances that increase grind particle evenness. The grinder is more important than the machine, without question. I always tell beginners to buy the cheapest gaggia they can find, and the most expensive grinder they can afford.
Thanks. This is useful stuff, actually. I guess for me, it comes down to "what's good enough?" The equipment we're using now makes better coffee and lattes than *$, pulls tasty shots, and doesn't eat up too much counter space. Could I own a better grinder? Sure, but I'm happy with the quality of what I'm getting ow, and so choose to drop $400 on a payment or two for kiddo's braces instead. Thanks for the info, though!
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:06 PM   #5004
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Capresso Infinities vary a lot from the factory, some do quite well right out of box for espresso machines. Apparently the later ones are better than the earlier gens.

You can mod them to add extra steps for more grind control. A notch right between clicks 1 and 2 seems to be the sweet spot for my machine, though with very fresh moist beans click #2 works well without modification. YMMV.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:15 PM   #5005
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Anybody using a Bunn trifecta MB? I just got one several weeks ago and have been liking it so far.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:48 PM   #5006
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Anybody using a Bunn trifecta MB? I just got one several weeks ago and have been liking it so far.
I've been eyeballing them, but I usually just make cappuccinos. If I buy another machine it will probably be that one.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:38 PM   #5007
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I've been eyeballing them, but I usually just make cappuccinos. If I buy another machine it will probably be that one.
It's pretty cool. I was using a french press before and it has since been collecting dust since I got the trifecta.

I plan on making the jump to espresso eventually (I really like the Rocket machines so far) but it will take me a while to save up. I just bought a refurbished Baratza Vario-W so it will make the jump to espresso a little bit easier.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:16 AM   #5008
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Anybody using a Bunn trifecta MB? I just got one several weeks ago and have been liking it so far.
Ooooo, that does look interesting. Might be something the wife would want to use. I don't mind making her espresso drinks at any time, but some days she works from home, and doesn't like to use the espresso machine as she doesn't feel like she's getting the same coffee out of it that I do. Might have to get her an anniversary present.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:54 AM   #5009
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$500, lol. I'd like to try one, but I'm not sure the extra $480 gets you your money worth over a clever. Apparently it is very good though.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:24 PM   #5010
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$500, lol. I'd like to try one, but I'm not sure the extra $480 gets you your money worth over a clever. Apparently it is very good though.
It might not be worth the additional money, but it is definitely faster and takes out some of the variables you have with manual brew systems. Probably like comparing a good electric grinder with a manual one you can get for much cheaper.

I just like that in 30 seconds it goes from low temp standby to ready to brew - so even if it has been a day or two since I've used the machine it will be ready to brew in 30 seconds. I don't have to wait to boil my water and then wait an additional 3 or 4 minutes for the coffee to steep/brew.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:29 PM   #5011
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am I out of my mind for not liking dark roasts?
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:34 PM   #5012
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It might not be worth the additional money, but it is definitely faster and takes out some of the variables you have with manual brew systems. Probably like comparing a good electric grinder with a manual one you can get for much cheaper.

I just like that in 30 seconds it goes from low temp standby to ready to brew - so even if it has been a day or two since I've used the machine it will be ready to brew in 30 seconds. I don't have to wait to boil my water and then wait an additional 3 or 4 minutes for the coffee to steep/brew.
Cool, man. I only get irritated when the end result sucks.

'Look, I got a keurig, it has lights, one button, viola!'

Yeah, well, the coffee blows.

If you have the money and the end result is good, rock the **** out of it. I could definitely see using the commercial version in a cafe.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:35 PM   #5013
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am I out of my mind for not liking dark roasts?
No. Why, did you think you strayed into the 'Master Crappy Drivel Coffee Thread of Swillwater Hell'?
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:22 PM   #5014
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No. Why, did you think you strayed into the 'Master Crappy Drivel Coffee Thread city of Swillwater Hell'?
Basically. I haven't had cup of coffee that I want again.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:53 PM   #5015
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am I out of my mind for not liking dark roasts?
no...not really

most of the coffees that Nate roasts he doesnt roast dark, iirc....

I hated the Lion coffee that one of my employers bought
**** was 'fire roasted' and always tasted burnt....nasty...very nasty.
many of my coworkers thought it was great...but it sucked.
the total times i have had starbucks coffee can be counted on my fingers....never really enjoyed any of it....but i got it for its medicinal purposes

on the same note, i dont like many very light roasted coffees either.

I have never got any coffee from Nate that i didnt like the roast....ive had one coffee that i got from him that I just didnt care for, but that had nothing to do with the roast....

and im s0000000oooooo happy that i got coffee from Nate here right after xmas because i have been off work for a month and have enjoyed his brew almost every day

one of the best things about my vaca actually
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:59 PM   #5016
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no...not really

most of the coffees that Nate roasts he doesnt roast dark, iirc....

I hated the Lion coffee that one of my employers bought
**** was 'fire roasted' and always tasted burnt....nasty...very nasty.
many of my coworkers thought it was great...but it sucked.
the total times i have had starbucks coffee can be counted on my fingers....never really enjoyed any of it....but i got it for its medicinal purposes

on the same note, i dont like many very light roasted coffees either.

I have never got any coffee from Nate that i didnt like the roast....ive had one coffee that i got from him that I just didnt care for, but that had nothing to do with the roast....

and im s0000000oooooo happy that i got coffee from Nate here right after xmas because i have been off work for a month and have enjoyed his brew almost every day

one of the best things about my vaca actually
Pretty much this. If you can find a Starbucks with a Clover machine they just might have a blend or two that is not cooked to charcoal status. That's the best compliment I can give them.
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ha, the clover has been my best cup so far. After that it has been the sbux blonde roast.

All the specialty guys and regular coffee places? Their **** is just way too dark and bitter for it to be enjoyable. Granted I may just not have gotten the right one from the specialty guys here.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:04 AM   #5018
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Dude, you live in a coffee mecca.

Blue Bottle
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Barefoot
Verve (in S. Cruz)
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Go visit those then tell me about sbux blonde junk.
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Dude, you live in a coffee mecca.



Go visit those then tell me about sbux blonde junk.
I've done blue bottle so far. The other guys dont fall in my way. unfortunately the two blue bottles i went too were swamped out the ass and they dont seem to give a **** about telling you. So i just asked for their most popular coffee, paid $3.xxx and got a mug of pourover that was over powering and i couldnt discern any flavors.

like I said i might be doing it wrong and i just need to find the right roast / bean.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:45 AM   #5020
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For sure, keep trying! Every roaster has their own style, you just need to find the one that fits your palate. I prefer Verve and Barefoot. It's worth the trip.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:42 AM   #5021
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Cool, man. I only get irritated when the end result sucks.

'Look, I got a keurig, it has lights, one button, viola!'

Yeah, well, the coffee blows.

If you have the money and the end result is good, rock the **** out of it. I could definitely see using the commercial version in a cafe.
I got mine for free so I can't complain too much, and at work I don't really have much time to invest when I just need a pick me up. With that said, are you saying this about their coffee pods or the machine, or both? I feel like after a dash of sugar and cream I my taste buds aren't good enough to discern much difference
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I got mine for free so I can't complain too much, and at work I don't really have much time to invest when I just need a pick me up. With that said, are you saying this about their coffee pods or the machine, or both? I feel like after a dash of sugar and cream I my taste buds aren't good enough to discern much difference
The machine is quite good. They usually have good temp control. The issue is the coffee pods. They are stale by the time they get shipped to the store, much less when you actually get to use them. If you grind your own and put it in one of the re-usable pods, then you start to get a good cuppa.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:09 AM   #5023
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Stuck in the house with some Java from Nate this am... a good 2.5-3feet from last night out there waiting to be shoveled. Just one more sip...

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Old 02-09-2013, 05:33 PM   #5024
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Question...
I know you're not supposed to refrigerate beans, so how come my "Coffee Masters" beans say refrigerate after opening?
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:40 PM   #5025
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I know you're not supposed to refrigerate beans, so how come my "Coffee Masters" beans say refrigerate after opening?
Perhaps they are referring to the portion you will not be using within the next few days or so?

If I am buying a lot of beans, I'll section them off into week-sized bags and freeze them. Once I pull them out, they don't go back in.
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