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Old 11-03-2005, 04:30 PM   #1
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Default So I might have to go buy an Accord Hybrid!

So MA is trying to pass a law that if you drive a hybrid vehicle, aside from the tax breaks and such, you'd get FREE parking in Boston!

Holy crap that would rule. I'd go buy a Civic or Accord hybrid in a heartbeat, then I could drive to work every day and it would actually cost LESS than taking the train. Not only that, but I'd be much happier!

Yay for the government occasionally making GOOD laws
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:34 PM   #2
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Meh.

Various diesels would get better mileage, but no incentives.

Hell, an old Geo Metro might, too.
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:34 PM   #3
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Virginia let hybrids into the HOV lanes. Now, they clog up everything and it sucks. Hybrids BELONG in gridlock - that's what they were made for!

But yeah, that's a nice car. Lots of benefits to that even without the parking.
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:35 PM   #4
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How about they apply that law to the city lots & parking structure behind Thornes Market in Northampton too. :grr:

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Old 11-03-2005, 04:35 PM   #5
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Accords are nice, but I can't really ever see myself in one.

But that free parking thing, along with the Civic's 40-50mpg...it would make a very worthwhile commuter vehicle.

The Accord is attractive in that it's got a crap-ton of power. But alas, FWD.
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:35 PM   #6
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Virginia let hybrids into the HOV lanes. Now, they clog up everything and it sucks. Hybrids BELONG in gridlock - that's what they were made for!

But yeah, that's a nice car. Lots of benefits to that even without the parking.
Yep.5
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:36 PM   #7
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So MA is trying to pass a law that if you drive a hybrid vehicle, aside from the tax breaks and such, you'd get FREE parking in Boston!

Holy crap that would rule. I'd go buy a Civic or Accord hybrid in a heartbeat, then I could drive to work every day and it would actually cost LESS than taking the train. Not only that, but I'd be much happier!

Yay for the government occasionally making GOOD laws

I saw that. I was wondering if the parking cops have a list of what's a hybrid, or if you have to get a special sticker or something. IF not then I'm slapping a 'hybrid' sticker on my wrx.

(I wouldn't buy a hybrid though. I'm politically against them, since they don't really produce 'less' emissions. Hello?)
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:37 PM   #8
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I saw that. I was wondering if the parking cops have a list of what's a hybrid, or if you have to get a special sticker or something. IF not then I'm slapping a 'hybrid' sticker on my wrx.
Yeah, and why not a little something for the CNG conversions? Cleaner and more efficient than hybrids, and any car can do it.

In VA, there are clean fuel license plates.
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:39 PM   #9
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California lets hybrid and electric vehicles drive in the carpool lanes... but they have to wear a huge sticker on the back bumper.
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:39 PM   #10
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Accords are nice, but I can't really ever see myself in one.

But that free parking thing, along with the Civic's 40-50mpg...it would make a very worthwhile commuter vehicle.

The Accord is attractive in that it's got a crap-ton of power. But alas, FWD.
Realistic mileage is from 37-45. I do a LOT of highway driving and that's what I'm seeing. Sometimes I'll hit bursts of 50+, but it's rare. These are averages over a tank. I'm not talking actual, real-time MPG. Just so you know.

I love my Civic Hybrid.
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:39 PM   #11
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Virginia let hybrids into the HOV lanes. Now, they clog up everything and it sucks. Hybrids BELONG in gridlock - that's what they were made for!
LOL, that's a good point!
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:45 PM   #12
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The Accord is attractive in that it's got a crap-ton of power. But alas, FWD.
What's the conversion for crap-ton to metric-ton?


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Old 11-03-2005, 05:00 PM   #13
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I don't know. I tend not to meddle in the affiars of the Canuckistanis.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:01 PM   #14
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I don't know. I tend not to meddle in the affiars of the Canuckistanis.
How un-American!


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Old 11-03-2005, 05:07 PM   #15
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So why is the govm't creating artificial demand given the manufacturers can't even keep up with the current unboosted one?

Also what are we going to do with all those batteries when thrown away?
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:09 PM   #16
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So why is the govm't creating artificial demand given the manufacturers can't even keep up with the current unboosted one?

Also what are we going to do with all those batteries when thrown away?
Agreed. The incentive should always be placed on taking public transportation into city centers. Cleaner cars (hybrid or otherwise) won't do **** for gridlock and it's still far more fuel efficient to haul trainloads of people in and out of the city anyhow.

Also, I bet the batteries would make nice planters.


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Old 11-03-2005, 05:35 PM   #17
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Virginia let hybrids into the HOV lanes. Now, they clog up everything and it sucks.
Why?

tbert enjoyed 80-85 mph on the NJ Turnpike coming back from NYC last Thursday night in his Prius.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:37 PM   #18
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Also what are we going to do with all those batteries when thrown away?
They don't get thrown away.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:38 PM   #19
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They don't get thrown away.
Where do they go ?
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:40 PM   #20
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Where do they go ?
Recycled.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:42 PM   #21
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Recycled.

Albuquerque has a similar deal from what I understand, but I think they capped the number of folks that could take advantage. It'll still take 5 years to recoup the extra money spent on them. And, as others have pointed out, it's not reducing traffic.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:42 PM   #22
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Where do they go ?
if they are lead-acid batteries they get recycled into new batteries.

PS 100% of a battery is recycleable
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if they are lead-acid batteries they get recycled into new batteries.

PS 100% of a battery is recycleable
Negatory. I think they're nickel-metal hydride, which is pretty environmentally benign. And recyclable.
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We've definately established that the batteries may be recycled.
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:47 PM   #25
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What possible reason does Boston have for this law?

How does this help Boston AT ALL?

It makes no sense to me.
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