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Old 08-30-2001, 06:45 PM   #1
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Question Whiteline Lowering Springs

Slow day on the board today..

On Don's site, it says these springs are extremely compliant with the stock shocks. Now with most aftermarket springs, it's better to get aftermarket shocks, right? So I was wondering how long the stock units would last if I use _these_ springs?

Btw, does anybody even own a set of these in Vancouver?

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Old 08-30-2001, 07:00 PM   #2
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Interesting question and I also have a query as to the fitment onto a Leg. Wagon ('01). Need to rid my car of that fender gap.
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Old 08-30-2001, 07:04 PM   #3
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I know Don has sold a few sets of them already so somebody has some locally.
I think somebody with a wagon out in Langley has them (sorry I forgot your name).
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:42 PM   #4
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Thanks Kevin. I hope the people that have these springs can post how much it lowers the car and how long they've had it with the stock shocks. I just want a lowered look that's proven safe for the shocks until I save up enough for some kyb's and springs later down the road..
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:06 PM   #5
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Wait. Save up and then go all out. There's no point in getting something now, and then trying to sell it later. It would be more economical if you just save a large amount and then dump it into your suspension all at once. Just my 2 cents.

Get coilovers! You'll never go back

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Old 08-31-2001, 02:48 AM   #6
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I was thinking about going for them as well, but TMR, you are right! Why waste money on something that is just going to be replaced? Soo... Anyone have any suggestions on some coil overs that would work great both on and off the road? I'll be doing probably 90% road, but that 10% of the time, I want to be able to have fun! Need something that doesn't lower, if at all.
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For off-road use..DMS.

Teins will be fine too as well. Haven't heard of anyone using Cusco to go rallying yet.

Ledas come to mind as well.
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Old 08-31-2001, 03:20 AM   #8
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Wait. Save up and then go all out. There's no point in getting something now, and then trying to sell it later. It would be more economical if you just save a large amount and then dump it into your suspension all at once. Just my 2 cents.

Get coilovers! You'll never go back

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totally agree....don't ever waste money on installation when u know shocks is going to die soon and u have to get it again....

just think one thing...u will never see anyone who sell u those parts using spring only himself....he will at least has shocks and 90% of them has coilovers themselves....

coilover is not street legal if u got picked on....but it's the way to go....my Civic from stock, stock shocks w/ Kg/mm DR Racing lowering springs, TEIN NR adjustable dampers, to now TEIN HR....every step up u will feel the diff....honestly i want to try sth even higher but ppl stops me from how many set of suspensions u want just on this Civic? haha....i think that's true too....hehe...

go for DMS if u decide to go off-road....personally think TEIN is more likely for street they have a diff one for Rallying i think....
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Old 08-31-2001, 11:09 AM   #9
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Interesting insights guys.. gotta think long-term!!

How much are we looking at for shocks + springs?
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Old 08-31-2001, 12:14 PM   #10
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Kayaba/H&R combo will run you about $1000-1200.
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Old 08-31-2001, 12:43 PM   #11
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Wow.. is that with or without installation?
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Without. Figure in another 50-200 for install depending where you get it done and if it's with alignment or not.
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And how much are TEINs? Also, with what kind of springs?
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TEIN coilovers will probably run you about 2200-3000.

Unless you want to go with Tein springs, those are about 200-300?

Personally, I'm VERY happy with my Kayaba/H&R combo. It's very tolerable, city driving it's fine. Stiff, yet compliant enough that girls won't complain (too much anyway). Adjustable so you can turn it all the way to full stiff and you can feel every bump and curve on the road. Granted, you don't get the heightened performance of real coilovers, but for the money and what we use it for, it's good enough.

Of course my next car (depending on what it is..hehehe) will be running Ohlins or Cusco coilovers.
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Yeah.. I think coilovers, even TEIN products are a bit too hardcore for what I use my car for, which is 95% street and probably 5% autocross.. so I really don't wanna spend way too much on that.. I think I'll just wait to get something like kyb's/h&r.

How much did that combo lower your car by?
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Old 08-31-2001, 06:32 PM   #16
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I have whitelines on my wagon (thanks Kevin ) and I really am pleased with them. I decided that coilovers weren't the way to go for me because the ride is stiffer than with a nice progressive rate spring, and really, how often do you alter the suspension height and corner balance? I had them on my hybrid civic for a few months before I gave up on them.

The coils ride well with the stock shocks, and from past experience, you can get anywhere from 1 to 2 years from them, depending on how aggressively you drive. Soon enough I'll have KYB shocks though. After buying some for my GSR, I'm in love. They even ride better than the Koni's IMHO.
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Old 08-31-2001, 07:30 PM   #17
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Mirage: Come out with us one day. I'll let you drive my car and you can experience it yourself. It's low enough that it looks great, but not so slammed that you'll rub or scratch (although you gotta be careful with speedbumps still).
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I'll definitely come out one of these days and have bbt with u guys. Things are a mess right now.. so, sorry I couldn't make it out the last few times.

Edit: Thanks for the info hypa!
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if u get KYB from US that will runs u about $750 shipped to ur door....Tein spring was on sale before but price goes up 2 or 3 months ago? is now about $325 or so w/ taxes....

installation is about $100 to $150 i will say....

4 wheel alignment is about $80....

if u want to experience diff combo....we can arrange someone w/ KYB + Tein and i can probably give u a ride in Joyce's car (KYB + Kg/mm)....hehe....
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5zigen: Actually, I want to try it too! Just to see how different the springs feel....and of course we'd all have to run the same settings on the kayabas...
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i am getting mine installed on tuesday, with a cusco tower strut brace
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Old 08-31-2001, 10:38 PM   #22
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what would you recommend for the Legacy. I am also thinking Springs first, shocks later for monetary reasons. It would be way too long before I can afford coil-overs and don't know if I want to go that far. Springs will rid my ride of the fender gap that I am not particularily fond of.
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Old 08-31-2001, 10:49 PM   #23
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you get Legacy Wagon specific springs. Impreza springs will be two "weak" for your manly wagon!

Whiteline *must* have something for the Legacy/Liberty -- check their web site.

http://www.whiteline.com.au

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I'd go with H&Rs Tora. You must've seen the Legacy wagon at Technik. Running H&Rs. Very nice look.
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but u have set ur sway bar differently? and other stuff?

she got 18mm sway + front and rear strut tower....hehe....

umm....can get jazz 13 for Tein + KYB + Cusco front and rear and 18mm sway....
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