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11-06-2005, 10:09 PM | #1 |
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AP with top mount
Im gonna run AP stage 2, and later on add a pnp td04 and the jdm sti top mount, will the AP be able to handle this as long as I dont race the car alot? Im in texas so there are not alot of options as far as getting tuned.
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11-07-2005, 01:58 AM | #2 |
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AP will handle the TMIC no problem. Wont get nearly as much out of it as with a profesional tune, but you wont blow up the car either/.
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11-07-2005, 06:27 AM | #3 |
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you have ST, is it easy to use ? what are your mods?
have you tuned your car with ST ? did you change timing etc. ? |
11-07-2005, 12:56 PM | #4 |
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ST is pretty easy to use. I find it easier than the UTEC. My engine mods are basically just a TBE, but shortly (when I find the time to install the crap sitting in my garage) to be a VF39, injectors and fuel pump.
I have tuned the car, and yes, have added a bit of timing to some locations on the map. |
11-07-2005, 04:36 PM | #5 |
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do you think I can start by using a stg 2 map and then tune with ST ?
and will the car start and run with the only stg 2 map ? |
11-07-2005, 05:10 PM | #6 |
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The car will start, but run QUITE poorly. Your best bet would be to find someone on wrxforums.com with a similar setup, get them to send you their map, and tune from there.
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11-07-2005, 11:04 PM | #8 |
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No, I'm saying that on a Stage 2 map your car will run like ass. On a proper map (AP, EcuTek, UTEC, StreetTuner), you car will run fine.
You dont seem to be getting this. Lemme make it REAL clear: *****WITHOUT A PROPER MAP DESIGNED FOR YOUR TURBO/INJECTORS, YOUR CAR WILL RUN LIKE ASS. WITH A PROPER MAP, IT WILL RUN FINE.****** |
11-08-2005, 11:44 AM | #9 | |
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Which is a huge differnce, because my version of running like ass is barely drivable, while what i think you mean is fine for driving around just not racing alot, or constant track runs. |
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Its in between. The car will run well enough to take a 50 mile drive to your tuner.
Think of it this way. Your stock injectors flow about 440cc. The pinks flow about 565cc. Thats a ~25% difference. If you run the car with mapping designed for stock injectors (e.g. a Stage 2 map), the car will be shoving in 25% too much fuel at every load point. Thats incredibly, over the top rich. The car WILL run, but you'll get plenty of black soot on your bumper, nice unburned gas smells, probably some idle problems, very likely some stumbling issues, to say nothing of poor performance. Its FAR closer to the 'not running' side than the 'not running optimally' side. |
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my stock injectors are 380 cc (but I switched to pinks).
are US WRX stock injectors 440 cc ? |
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11-09-2005, 01:08 AM | #13 | |
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11-09-2005, 07:17 AM | #14 |
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an upgraded top mount shouldn't give you any problems w/ stage 2. it's a bit overkill to get a bigger intercooler with the stock td04, however. a version 7 will be a perfect upgrade for a stage 2, but you'll want a bigger bar and plate when you go 2.5. As always, a custom tune is best, but the off the shelf maps will work.
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I do know what i'm talking about, but missed an element of the setup there. Last edited by mcowger; 11-09-2005 at 01:33 PM. |
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I have been running a Hyperflow tmic on my ride for 2 yrs. Started @ stg. 1, now stg.2 HWG. w/turbo back. Never a problem, and have done 0-60 @ 6.1 w/ a 4eat tranny. Gutted u/p helped to eliminate that lag problem, and that time was without brake torquing.
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