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Old 09-01-2001, 06:26 PM   #1
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Unhappy South FL tuner update, S-AFC is in(long)

Well here I go.......
First I must say it was really cool of Cartek to get me a rental for the night. Especaily since I drove up there twice and then found out they couldn't do it that day.
I came prepared w/car and S-AFC wiring diagrams. Went there today at noon to get/wait for the car. He has only 3 wires spliced in at that point. He said "I've been getting interupted all morning." So I figure, OK then I won't get charged fully for those 2-3 hrs that he has been getting interupted. He wires in the last couple of S-AFC wires and then wires in the AF ratio gauge.
He gets the ECU all covered up and I replace the dash under the stering wheel. I pay him......we go out and start up the car......

The S-AFC DOES NOT TURN ON

He pulls the floor apart again and gets to the ECU. Checks the power wire for the S-AFC w/a test light, no power! We test the test light and the S-AFC with a hot wire to make sure THEY works, yes they do. Then he looks through the wires and finds another one, light comes on, THAT is the power wire. Splices the wires......still the S-AFC doesn't come on He wires the S-AFC power to the fuse box.....it now comes on w/the car.

The car isn't running right w/the S-AFC hooked up. We think I have a wide range O2 sensor so it's not getting correct readings. Unpluged the car runs normal (it's kind of normal ).

So now I have to find out what kind of O2 sensor is on my car before I can use the S-AFC to tune it .


Now back to the paying part. I was charged for 3.5 hrs total, 10am to 1:30pm. All That time he was interupted must not count. He DID give me $3 of his usaul hr rate

My kingdom for a good, fair mechanic.
I guess it's back to searching for another shop
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Old 09-01-2001, 06:54 PM   #2
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My advice to everyone. GET CONNECTED. Its wondeful, dont pay for labor, get special attention, pay 50% or less (car/performnace companies make a killing) on parts. Recent example: put some new brake pads and rotors on the front. Brake pads I bought my self but the rotors cost me 25% (not a typo) retail and labor was free.

If your a car enthusiast there should always be some connection you can get into.
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Old 09-01-2001, 09:56 PM   #3
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why not just learn how to install the stuff yourself? I didn't know much about electronics untill I started to play with things myself. I installed my ITC myself and I plan on installing my S-AFC myself when I get it. its really not all that hard, it just looks like it is.

the only hard thing is making the job look clean.. just practice making good crimps and solid connections.

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Old 09-02-2001, 08:50 PM   #4
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Hey Allen, I sent you a PM, but your box is full! Try cleaning that out every once and a while.

Anyway, I typed too much, so I'll make this one short.

1. Got your message, but I did a little too much PM cleaning, so I lost your number...send me it again.

2. I couldn't answer your question anyway; I am new to the WPB area, and don't know anyone here to ask.

3. I'm pulling an all day wash/clay bar/polish/wax tomorrow (mon) so if you are in the area, give me a call and stop by to give the ol' scoob a rinse.

Later

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Old 09-02-2001, 11:53 PM   #5
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I got an S-AFC for my car, and a few gauges to install with it. I plan on doing it myself, hopefully my car wont blow up.


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Old 09-03-2001, 01:51 AM   #6
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Hey all, I am new to the list just joined but i just had an AFC put in in south florida at a place called dynamic turbo down by Miami International. i would recommend them highly for any work. So far they have put in an HKS Boost controller, HKS Turbo Timer, Fuel Cut Defenser, HKS AFC, HKS carbon fiber/titanium Exhaust and i have to tell you i am very happy with there work. They gauges go in this week by them as well.
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Old 09-03-2001, 10:10 AM   #7
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Umm, ScoobySlack1...

That's what I said...

But seriously, I recommended DT to ScoobySlack1 after this place jerked him around the second time, but he3 opted to give them a 3rd (and last) chance when they offered to pay for a rental while they installed the AFC. I tried to wrn him that in So Fla if they offer to pay for it, it's cause they are padding the bill enough to make up for it, but he didn't listen.

DT installed a universal performance muffler on my Forester, as well as the springs on both the Forester and my wife's RS. They do good work, and they keep (pretty much) to their appointments...

I think ScoobySLack1 will be trying them next time...
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Old 09-03-2001, 10:46 AM   #8
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You need to make sure the power and ground wires (any wire for that matter) for the s-afc are only connected to the computer. Powering the AFC from the fuse panel can or anywhere other than the computer can cause signal interference as well as damage to the computer. That could be part of your problem with the car running incorrectly when it's hooked up. It shouldn't take someone with proper tools and knowledge more than an hour to install an AFC. I did mine in the parking lot where I work (using proper tools and a portable soldering iron) in about 1.5 hrs. It's shouldn't be hard if you have the wiring info for your car. Hope you have better luck next time!

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Old 09-04-2001, 08:38 AM   #9
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Stoopid MOMO-I was connected where I used to live, but I just moved down here and those things take time.

STiTuner-You're right it was easier than it looked. I didn't want to mess w/the ECU wires, now that I watched him do most of the job, no problem. I sure I could even make it look cleaner. If any one wants help to install theirs, I know what to do now.

pleiades-How can it damage the computer if it is not getting the power from there? I think he did wire it to the fuse box. It is not hooked up yet due to the O2 sensor needing to be changed.

Ant WRX-I didn't go up there anyway, I was just a lazy ass all weekend
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Old 09-04-2001, 09:49 AM   #10
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If you are using a power source other than the computer's, you are potentially allowing a stray signal into the computer via the S-AFC and it's wires that are connected to the computer. It may not damage the computer, but it could most likely cause the computer to miss-read voltages from sensors that the AFC is connected to.
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Old 09-04-2001, 11:48 AM   #11
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Sorry man... I don't understand why it was such a problem, I've always gotten good service there. I don't know why they had such a problem with that.

I don't know what to tell ya, they've always worked on my cars without a problem or a hitch. So much now that I don't even double check their work anymore.

Sorry you had problems there.

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Old 09-04-2001, 12:23 PM   #12
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I don't know why they had such a problem either. They said that they have done S-AFC's before. He had all the wiring diagrams and still wired it wrong.
I just couldn't believe that he put it all back together w/o checking it out . I guess I'm kind of anal about things like that, I always double check everything.

It sucks that it turned out this way. Stephan was cool to me, but they left alot to be desired.
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