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Old 11-10-2005, 12:17 PM   #1
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Default Technical difference between "Bar and Plate", "Fin and Tube"?

While searching on-line for a more technical description of the difference between "bar and plate" and "fin and tube" intercooler designs, I came across the following:

http://www.beyond-bedding.com/miin.html

Is it a joke? What is "Beyond Bedding" selling an auto intercooler for?

Weird!

Anyway -- anyone know the difference? Can anyone point out a detailed reference?

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Old 11-10-2005, 12:20 PM   #2
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holy crap that thing is huge! lol
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:24 PM   #3
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Bar & Plate: our intercoolers

Shell & Tube (or fin), basically the tube coils inside a large shell with the shell completely enclosing the coiled tube.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:19 PM   #4
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I believe bar & plate designs allow better cooling and they are more durable as well.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:41 PM   #5
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I thought our stock ICs were tube and fin?
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:52 PM   #6
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I thought our stock ICs were tube and fin?
Me too...
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:55 PM   #7
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I thought our stock ICs were tube and fin?
they are.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:57 PM   #8
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I believe bar & plate designs allow better cooling and they are more durable as well.
They allow for less pressure drop(less restriction) but the tube and fin cool better because the intake air is stuck in them longer.
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:16 PM   #9
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From the manifesto:

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Which TMIC construction method is best? TMICs have two main construction methods:
1. tube and fin
2. bar and plate
There is much debate as to which construction method is best. There are many pros and cons with each design type, but no real hard data. Bar and plate designs are consistently reported as more damage resistant which gives them the edge with regard to appearance longevity. In the end, you are best advised to chose a TMIC based on other qualities rather than concentrate on construction design.
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:30 PM   #10
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From the manifesto:
I appreciate the pointer to the 'Bomber's FAQ, which I've read.

However, I hardly consider this a "detailed reference."

Nice try, buy no cookie...
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:52 PM   #11
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I appreciate the pointer to the 'Bomber's FAQ, which I've read.

However, I hardly consider this a "detailed reference."

Nice try, buy no cookie...
You're wrong dude. Stock is tube and fin.
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You're wrong dude. Stock is tube and fin.
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:50 PM   #14
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You're wrong dude. Stock is tube and fin.
I'm going to guess that you quoted the wrong piece. I never claimed otherwise.

Does no-one have any references to a detailed discussion of the structural, techincal differences between these two designs? A general "Effective Intercooler Design" type reference would be great.
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:52 PM   #15
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Outstanding! It was worth wading through all the muck, since finally, a meaningful contribution has appeared. Thanks DrD!
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