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Old 11-10-2005, 03:09 PM   #1
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Default Track days - Need setup advice

So I've decided to get back on track and put the beater WRX to good use, but I've been out of it for four or five years now so I'm unclear of the car setup rules. I'm aiming to do a few HPDE's and TT's at NHIS, and probably Pocono and VIR. I'm not too interested in getting caught up in points and going to lots of events, but at the same time I'd like to set the car up so it's competitive in whatever class I'm in. I'm looking to keep things simple: race tires (thanks Jason!), good brake pads and some suspension changes. In particular I want to replace the struts and springs, do aftermarket springs bump me into a higher class? Is there a common setup that works well for WRX's?

Who are the best groups to run with at NHIS, in terms of seat time and attitude? I'm already a BMWCCA Boston member, but back in the day the BMW events used to be very crowded and short on seat time.

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Old 11-10-2005, 03:14 PM   #2
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COM looks to be awesome to run with, not to mention there is a huge group of jerks from here that run it.

For suspension- Get Tanabe GF210's and STi struts or Koni's. You cannot lose with that setup. Several members have/had it and will agree with me.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:19 PM   #3
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Paul,

(funny....I JUST sent you a PM before reading your post)

Do you want to do competitions or just get in some lap time. If you do want to do competition, my approach is to push the car to the limit of the rules. Showroom stock with COM allows pretty much tires/wheels, brake pads and shocks. Nothing else really makes any difference. Call Carbotech and tell them your car setup. They'll tell you what you need, charge you $500 for 4 corners and after a day at the track, you'll realize that you're not having any problems with brakes. Motul is probably your best bet for fluid. If you want to compete and win, you'll need to run Hoosier R3S04's and go through about $4k in the season in tires. Next step down is the Toyo/Kumho/etc tires that'll last much longer....possibly an entire season if you don't drive like Raj.

ST class up's your ante. I once calculated that my 90 M3 would need $10k to make it ST legal, competitive and ready to run in BMW club races. I stayed in SSA.

If you just want to do lapping, that's s different story. Remove weight from your car. Get non-coilover springs that are stiffer and single rate. Figure out how non-streetable you want the car to get. Look around for unwanted track tires (couple ads on the board now). You'll be surprised how many unwanted, free track tires are in peoples cellars.

BMW White Mountain AND Boston chapters both do NHIS. COM extends to the Canada tracks and VIR and sometimes Pocono plus Watkins Glen.

If you wanna do a lot of tracks, talk with KFoote. I'm convinced that he does track days for a living. One continuous One Lap of America.

Maybe you'd want to trade that Kart up for a CRX? (see PM)

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Old 11-10-2005, 05:42 PM   #4
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I used the Carbotech Panther Plusses for pads and liked them. If you want an all out track pad I heard the Panther XP's are even better but they eat up your rotors pretty quick. Just a suggestion.

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Old 11-10-2005, 06:19 PM   #5
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I suggest http://www.comscc.com.

We're a fun bunch of a'holes.

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Old 11-11-2005, 09:33 AM   #6
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Tracked my stock 03 WRX at Pocono and Lime Rock. The only changes were Yokohama tires and single adjustable shocks. I did go to 4 pot front brakes midway thru the year, I did not like the way the car stopped with Hawk front pads, Porterfields and the 4 pot were much nicer. Ran consistantly mid pack in a basically stock car, very nice ride. The Sparco harness bar is a nice addition, fairly easy to install, and I like the security of a 4 point
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:28 AM   #7
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Paul-
Im parting out my wrx in the next week, and I also have a boat load of carbotech pads for stock size calipers and also 4pot/2pot setup. PM me for more info.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:44 AM   #8
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Paul-
Im parting out my wrx in the next week, and I also have a boat load of carbotech pads for stock size calipers and also 4pot/2pot setup. PM me for more info.
So the decision has been made!

Hey, I know of a 94 Miata in good shape for sale.
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:00 AM   #9
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ha!

actually the car is almost half way there. I need a whole weekend to really get dirty. Not sure what Im going to drive to LRP tho...
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:03 AM   #10
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Thanks for the replies and the link to the rules. I want (need) to keep the car streetable as it is primarily a commuter car. So COM Showroom Stock sounds like the obvious starting point: I can run decent pads, tires and struts. I agree with Jack that ST seems like a lot of work and prep and I'd be way out of my league.

So what are people using for SS leagal struts?

Jack, I'm keeping the kart.
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:57 PM   #11
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If all that you are looking for is seat time, with moderate levels of competition, COM is the group to run with in the Northeast. BMWCCA schools have improved significantly over the last few years int he northeast, and the biggest benefit of BMWCCA is that you can run DE events all over the country. EMRA is another northeast/Mid-Atlantic group, and their organization has gotten better over the last few years.

Again, if you are looking for maximum street time in a dual purpose car, my reccommendation of mods in order would be:

Brakes
Tires
Struts
Roll Bar
6-point harnesses
Seat

All of the above are legal in COM SS, and the more stock you keep your car, the easier it will be to find parts. For spares, I would make sure to carry brake pads, front hubs, and wheel studs in addition to the "normal" stuff.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:26 PM   #12
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Paul, I'd go with Koni's (adjustable) or Sti struts. You could also do KYB Agx's (also adjustable), but most prefer the Konis over the AGXs. Agxs have a nice price tag though.

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Old 11-15-2005, 08:11 PM   #13
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paul, you still looking at brake pads?

I really need to get rid of the ones that I have.

Carbotech XP9,Panther+, bobcat for fronts
Carbotech XP8, bobcat for rears

These are all used to some degree or another.

I forgot, I also have speed bleeders for the stock calipers front & rear

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