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Old 11-11-2005, 01:25 PM   #1
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Default Intercooler silicone hoses legal for stock/ST class?

Hey all,

I know in the 05 SCCA auto-x rules it states:
"Silicone replacement hoses are permitted as alternate components,
provided they meet the requirements of Section 13.0 with
regard to size, shape, location, and performance equivalence.
Replacement induction system air intake hoses must also match
the standard part in stiffness, contour, and internal wall texture."

Now my question is the replacement Samco intercooler hoses allowed because the "internal wall texture" will be smoother than stock... I have been running in STX and plan to stay there.

Yes, I know the gains are minimal but family and the gf are asking what I want for the holidays and I certainly can't ask them for a new dp, catback or any other number of more expensive goodies. Oooo, I just realized I can tell them stainless steel brakelines as well.

I shot a PM to KC and he was on the fence but was leaning towards illegal. I'm curious as to what other people think.....
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Old 11-11-2005, 02:43 PM   #2
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I say it's illegal for the reason you stated as well as the samco hoses are not as stiff as stock. Yes, gain is minimal, but a little bit here and there can make all the difference.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:21 PM   #3
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They are illegal because they are after the compressor inlet which you are not allowed to change in ST classes. Yes they are hoses but they are also part of the intact tract and are specifically not allowed to be changed as listed in 14.10.B.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:24 PM   #4
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They are illegal because they are after the compressor inlet which you are not allowed to change in ST classes. Yes they are hoses but they are also part of the intact tract and are specifically not allowed to be changed as listed in 14.10.B.
I agree with Phil.

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Old 11-11-2005, 06:50 PM   #5
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You could ask for some steering rack bushings.......$30 for Whiteline brand. I believe these will be legal starting in 06 and everyone says they're a nice improvement. They're on my list.
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:17 PM   #6
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You could ask for some steering rack bushings.......$30 for Whiteline brand. I believe these will be legal starting in 06 and everyone says they're a nice improvement. They're on my list.
They're less of a benefit on the 05 and up WRX or STi due to the redesign of how the steering rack mounts to the car for those that might be interested.

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Old 11-11-2005, 08:13 PM   #7
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I hadn't read that, thanks for the info.
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:07 PM   #8
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They are illegal because they are after the compressor inlet which you are not allowed to change in ST classes. Yes they are hoses but they are also part of the intact tract and are specifically not allowed to be changed as listed in 14.10.B.
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