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Old 01-19-2006, 10:51 PM   #51
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Is the 100lb load limit still applicable? Is that a function of the rack or the roof? Thanks!
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Old 01-20-2006, 01:21 AM   #52
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Racks have a load limit, and roofs have a load limit. I believe the 100 lb. limit is the limit of the roof in this case. But I also know some cheaper rack systems have limits less than 100.

Reccomend people to check out the new company: RV INNO
They make racks and accessories that fit yakima/thule. Their surf rack is by far the best I've seen, and I'm sure their ski/board racks are good too.
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Old 01-20-2006, 01:26 AM   #53
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Old 01-20-2006, 12:10 PM   #54
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I use the Thule box on mine. It holds a ton of stuff and keeps it all dry.
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Old 02-03-2006, 03:37 AM   #55
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Old 02-04-2006, 07:03 PM   #56
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nice.. anyone try this yet on a gc?
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:30 PM   #57
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damn, pics don't work and i'm installing my rack today! oh well think i got it anyways.
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:17 PM   #58
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damn, pics don't work and i'm installing my rack today! oh well think i got it anyways.
stupid photo hosting website keeps messing with my stuff...I'll check to see if they're lost for good.
As for silver car ^ ....cut those crossbars down!!!
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:21 PM   #59
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stupid photo hosting website keeps messing with my stuff...I'll check to see if they're lost for good.
As for silver car ^ ....cut those crossbars down!!!
Ha Ha, you would scream at mine! I have a Thule box on top of my yakima rack with the crossbars offcentered so the box aligns with the side of the car. Purely functional as my car gets filthy in the snow. That way I don't have to lean on the car to open and get into the box.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:55 PM   #60
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stupid photo hosting website keeps messing with my stuff...I'll check to see if they're lost for good.
As for silver car ^ ....cut those crossbars down!!!

I know... Im just a bit too lazy. Those crossbars are beefy! Maybe when Im really bored. As of now, they dont bother me too much.

I heard someone tried this after he looked at a picture. Instead of following directions and putting the clips into the little bracket, he just slid it into the weather stripping and as he was driving with some snowboards, they flew off and messed up the trunk and his stuff was on the freeway.
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Old 02-16-2006, 10:13 PM   #61
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could the OP rehost the pictures so i could see them again. im thinking about doing this over the weekend and i really would like some pictures to help me out. thanks a bunch.
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Old 02-16-2006, 10:16 PM   #62
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nice.. anyone try this yet on a gc?
I'd like to know too
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Old 02-16-2006, 10:18 PM   #63
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could the OP rehost the pictures so i could see them again. im thinking about doing this over the weekend and i really would like some pictures to help me out. thanks a bunch.
I have to admit the pics helped me out also. It is a great mod and props to the Op for coming up with this. It is so much better of a connection to the car. You should sell the idea / clip design to Yakima.
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stupid photo hosting website keeps messing with my stuff...I'll check to see if they're lost for good.
As for silver car ^ ....cut those crossbars down!!!
that sucks
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Old 03-26-2006, 09:28 PM   #65
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I just took my rack off today. School is gonna have to take precedence over the rest of the season. So, in response to PMs, I took some pictures of the Thule tower clips that I cut up to make this work for me. This one's ugly, but it works and I am sure someone can do it better. Thanks again, Jsavage, this is a great modification.





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Old 03-30-2006, 03:22 PM   #66
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could the OP rehost the pictures so i could see them again. im thinking about doing this over the weekend and i really would like some pictures to help me out. thanks a bunch.
Photos work fine for me. Are they still busted? My photo hosting site goes in and out of working for some reason.
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Old 03-31-2006, 09:09 PM   #67
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Pics were working for me and still are. What model number are the Thule clips that need to be modified?
Thanks
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Old 03-31-2006, 09:37 PM   #68
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I think it was a 233 fit kit, but I don't remember for sure and I can't find the paper work. Go look it up at www.Thule.com by application to be sure. Whatever the case, I had two clip kits, a 233 and something else, and the clips were the same part, the only difference being the pads.
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:39 PM   #69
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Old 05-14-2006, 08:35 PM   #70
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I really wish I had the tools to pull this off. ...Or just any tools, period.
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Old 06-01-2006, 10:21 AM   #71
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I've been trying to install my Yakima stuff along with bike racks a for a while now. Didn't like how it was securing on my WRX. This way looks way better like all of the others have said. Pardon my ignorance here since I haven't removed the black weather stripping yet, but are there four of the rivet point beneath the stripping? Meaning two up front and two in the rear?

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Old 06-01-2006, 10:32 AM   #72
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... but are there four of the rivet point beneath the stripping? Meaning two up front and two in the rear?
You got it!
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OK, I wanted to make sure as none of the pics I saw clearly showed there were any in the rear, although I saw that the Q-towers were connected.

Going to order the Q7 clips today. And out of curiosity: Were these rivots made for this purpose or are they beneath the stripping strictly for those black clips?

Do any of you get wind noise on the freeway with the Yakima stuff? Even with the fairing?

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Old 06-01-2006, 10:52 AM   #74
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so this should work with a Thule rack too? Just need to cross reference what car the Q7 clips fit on corect? Im gonna check i'll post my findings.
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Old 06-01-2006, 11:08 AM   #75
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so this should work with a Thule rack too? Just need to cross reference what car the Q7 clips fit on corect? Im gonna check i'll post my findings.
It will fit. Check out my post a ways back (#41) for a Thule installed to my car. A few posts up there are some pics of my ugly clips. I think you want 233 clips; I just cut mine.
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so i did some searching and found the cars that the Q7 clips fit onto. And also whatfit kit Thule had for these cars to see if they were the same.
88-91 Honda CRX --> Thule 77 fit kit
03-05 Kia Sorento --> Not Available
04-05 Scion xA --> Not Available
90-94 VW Corrado --> Thule 94 Fit Kit

I even called a rack place and the guy couldn't understand what i was asking for when i tried to get a cross reference between the two brands.

But if specialev was successful in using the 233 fit kit, then that seems to be the way to go.

Specialev, Do you have a write-up of what you had to do to modify these?
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Specialev, Do you have a write-up of what you had to do to modify these?
With the rails removed and the rack sitting on the car I measured what I thought was necessary to cut outta the existing clips used to mount the rack the the door frames. Once I had a good measurement, I cut up a clip using a reciprocating saw. I left little tab at one end which I bent over and profiled to fit the towers and the hardpoints in the roof. I made them one at a time carfully fitting them and grinding/cutting as I went.

Not much more to write other than that. It's just a bracket and it's up to you to make it fit right.

You can see an example of a clip that I cut up in my post here (I even put a scale bar in it for ya). Hold up one of your 233s to the screen and see how it deviates from that one. Not a lot of work really. Getting the rails back on is definately more of a PITA.
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Did the 233's come with your rack when you bought it? The Thule website shows the kit coming with a 206 fit kit. I searched but could not find the 233. I figure if i mess up i can just order new clips and either start over or just mount them the normal way right?
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So i did some more research. The 233 Fit Kit is for:
233 95-99 Subaru Legacy 4dr
233 98-99 Subaru SUS 4dr

And the 206 fit kit which comes up on the thule site when i input my vehicle which is an 06TR:
206 95-01 Subaru Impreza 2dr
206 93-06 Subaru Impreza 4dr
206 93-01 Subaru Impreza Wagon
206 02-06 Subaru Impreza WRX 4dr
206 00-04 Subaru Legacy 4dr
206 00-04 Subaru Outback 4dr

So basically i will need to order the 233 fit kit(which i assume is shorter than the 206) and cut, groove, and bend it to fit. And then all should be good......

hope this reference helps some.

I found this info here : http://www.thuleracks.com/thule/vehi...tkit_guide.asp
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:30 AM   #81
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Thats my bad for throwing that wrong number out there, I dunno where I got that. I think I had one sitting around that I sold and it's in a feedback loop in my poor addled brain. You want the 206 clip kit. As I recall though, the only difference between the kits is the rubber block between the roof and the foot of the rack; the clips in the 206 and 233 kits are the same.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:25 PM   #82
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Yeah...I looked into this option, but the rack sits sooooo high on the car. And no farring would fit it sitting so high. Two pretty big draw-backs for me. Oh and the fact that it has to be ordered from the other side of the pond.

Woah......talk about a dollar late, dollar short here but.......is jsavage saying that the "suggested" way of mounting the Q-Towers above the windows is higher and that his way(with Q-Clips) mounts lower? If so thats awesome, I would obviously prefer the lower profile and on his STi it appears to be very low and "sleek".

Also if anyone could tell me how this install has held up over time and under various uses/condition that would be great. I just spent quite a pretty penny on a mountain bike and I would die if my bike/board flew off my roof. Thanks in advance!

P.S. anyone have suggestions on which bike carrier is closet to the price/strength sweet spot? i.e. Strong/Durable for a reasonable price.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:52 PM   #83
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I have had this mod on my STI since last fall. All winter I had a Roof top box (thule) with at least 4 pairs of skis at all times along with two pairs of poles. No issues whatsoever.
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Has anyone had issues with rusting especially by the clips' area, particularly if you were to leave the rack on during rain and winter?
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Has anyone had issues with rusting especially by the clips' area, particularly if you were to leave the rack on during rain and winter?
We had a pretty heavy winter here - 400 inches of snow and no rust!
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You can see my clips above; they rusted a little on the surface where I cut 'em up. I need to paint or powder coat them before next season. See if that happens.

I noted no other rust.
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Thanks, I'll probably give them a coat of paint
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Sounds like good info keeps getting added to this thread...keep it coming (bump)
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Finally got around to installing my Yakima gear today with all the info from this thread. Broke a couple of clips, but the thing is on there rock-solid and I'm way happy with the result. No extra wind noise at ALL!!!

Will post pics tomorrow...
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OK, so I can just order the normal old WRX fit kit for the THULE and then I'll be able to mod that to work? The 206 kit, just to be sure? I'm so doing this. I'm so sick of borrowing the wife's MINI to go surfing...

Too bad I sold my bike rack and ski box when I left MT (dodn'[t want to buy racks for my WRX...

Now I need is a whole new rack, fairing, 2 bike trays, a new box, and a lockable surf rack...

Awesome idea and writeup though, thanks!
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Been looking into this more and more. I found this "fit kit" for an audi TT:

they have something VERY similar for the VW bug. I wonder if it would work for the WRX's little tabs... I think I'm going to try to go by a dealer tonight and see if they have one in stock to try it on the car. Looks like it will still need a little tweaking, but that it might be a cheaper and less bulky solution for this.

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jacobsen1 - Let us know how it works out. Something like that would look much better than our hack job. I'm sure if we can make it work with window clips, then these should work much better.
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jacobsen1 - Let us know how it works out. Something like that would look much better than our hack job. I'm sure if we can make it work with window clips, then these should work much better.
I will. Didn't have time to look last night. Right now I'm trying to buy a thule rack from a few different members here to save some $ on the setup. Once I get a rack, then I'll have to go over to my local THULE dealer and see if the TT or BUG versions will work and if you can adapt them. Looks like they will work very well, but my concern is that on the THULE site the discribe them as a special design to work with the rounded roof of those cars. I'm not sure what that will mean in terms of working on the shape of our roofs. I'm definately going to check it out though as it looks like it's be a lot cleaner setup. If you're starting from scratch with a setup it's a lot cheaper too.

The cost of the Audi TT/VW Bug rack is very close tot he same price as getting everything for the WRX. The only issue I see is that the TT and BUG racks are sold as a set, where as the WRX is sold as towers, bars, and a fit kit... Now sure if we'll be able to buy just the "fit kit" for the TT as I can only find it in the complete kit. This will be an issue if you only want the fit kit, and also if you want different length bars. The bars actually look like they might not be interchangable too... I'll do some homework on this and see what I can dig up.

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Was anyone successful in using any other yakima clip besides Q7. I'm having a hell of a time sourcing that part!

Thanks.

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jacobsen1 - Let us know how it works out. Something like that would look much better than our hack job. I'm sure if we can make it work with window clips, then these should work much better.
Well I stopped my "fishing expodition" short for a few reasons:

1) The only local shop with these in stock sucks
2) The charge MSRP with ZERO wiggle room
3) After playing around with my roof, the roof is not as strong where the "feet" end up when you do this custom install. I think it will be fine for what everyone here is doing with their racks. I'm sure the listed 110lbs (or whatever the number is) is OK in that spot on the roof. The issue I found is that the roof is VERY STRONG where that little strip sits, and stronger still as you go tawards the windows, where the stock install ends up... When you look at the flat part of the roof where the feet end up with the custom install, the roof gets weaker and more flexable as you go "in" from the edge. I plan on putting a 140lb boat on the roof with spars so it will be in the 160lb range when I'm done. I didn't want to risk denting my roof, and once you get the clips installed perfectly on the doors there are no issues, so I left them there. For my weight estimates I used my body weight on the empty roof, no racks. I can press the flat roof in with my hand/arm with ~30lbs pressure, but I can hang all my wieght off the edge where the feet go with in the stock possition with zero deflection... So I'd say in the normal spot it's good for at least 200lbs (if not 200x4 really, but at that point I don't trust the rack to hold on, I'm just talking pounds to dent the roof here). In your custom placement I'd say it's 100~120lbs and you're still OK. For me that's not enough so I'm sticking with the normal placement.

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Any pics of the stock install? I can't find the Q7 clips so I might just do the recommended install. is this custom install really worth it? My heaviest load will be my car top carrier with camping crap.
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Any pics of the stock install? I can't find the Q7 clips so I might just do the recommended install. is this custom install really worth it? My heaviest load will be my car top carrier with camping crap.
Here is the stock THULE setup on my WRX with 2 boards on the roof:

at home:


at the beach:


Also check out THIS THREAD over in the gallery with lots more stock shots. You can see on my car in the driveway (top shot above) how the feet sit between the black strip and the windows on an angle. From pushing on that versus the roof you can tell the standard spot is a lot stronger. Try it on your roof. Push down on the flat section inside of the black gutter versus the rounded part between the windows and the black gutter.

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I just did the install over last weekend - it went well. I see everyone's concerns about the rain-gutter install with weights - why would there be mounting points if the roof wasn't designed to have a rack installed on those points? I think it will hold up - it may flex a bit but I thik it wouldn't be permanent.

As for the Yakima fairing - now that the feet are shorter, it won't fit. HOw did you get around it? Just drill new holes on the outside portion of the fairing?
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Hey guys, Finally sourced the q7 clips. Let's hope I don't ruin any of them because I don't think I'll be able to find anymore! Wish me luck, will post pics when complete. Thanks, and great write up!
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I ordered my Q7 clips directly from Yakima a couple months ago with no problems. Are you guys trying to source them from your local stores?
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