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Old 11-16-2005, 01:45 AM   #1
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Default Another new national SCCA class for 2006: Touring 3

I'll lift this article from the SCCA's website:

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Touring 3 Pushes SCCA Club Racing National Class Count to 25
Written by: Curtis Kitchen Topeka, Kan. – 11/15/2005

Sports Car Club of America’s Board of Directors has announced the approval of the new national-level class Touring 3, which pushes the class count to 25, the most national classes in SCCA Club Racing since it was 25 in 1996.

The T3 class, which ran previously as a regional class only, will join the Spec Miata class as a new addition on the national scene for 2006.

“There are a number of sports cars and sedans currently being produced that fit between the Touring 2 and Showroom Stock B performance level,” SCCA Club Racing Director Terry Ozment said. “We expect Touring 3 to follow suit with Touring 2 and become one of the fastest-growing National classes.”

Among the several newer-model cars that will call T3 home are: Audi TT Quatro, Chevrolet Cobalt SS, Ford Mustang GT, Lexus IS300, Mazdaspeed Miata, Mazda RX-8, Mini Cooper S w/ John Cooper Works package, Saturn Ion Redline, Scion TC and Subaru Impreza WRX.

For more information about SCCA Club Racing or the National Championship Runoffs, visit www.scca.com.
Rules have been updated: http://scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/Im...uleChanges.pdf

Good, bad, indifferent? Consensus seems to be that this will be one heck of a popular class. Will the WRX be competitive?
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:29 AM   #2
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cool, i wonder which car will be best, the mini cooper might be one of top performs in that list... but thats just a guess from me. I bet t3 will be as good or better to watch than t2 (judging on competition, and action)
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:06 AM   #3
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my money is on the rx-8. all of those other cars have major flaws in the suspension setup that can't be fixed within the touring ruleset. the rx-8, not so much. unless they hand the rx-8 a lot of weight, the double wishbone suspension, good gearing, good power, 50/50 weight distribution, etc. will all add up to make for one dominant t3 car.

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Old 11-16-2005, 08:12 AM   #4
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my money is on the rx-8. all of those other cars have major flaws in the suspension setup that can't be fixed within the touring ruleset. the rx-8, not so much. unless they hand the rx-8 a lot of weight, the double wishbone suspension, good gearing, good power, 50/50 weight distribution, etc. will all add up to make for one dominant t3 car.

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Old 11-16-2005, 08:22 AM   #5
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I'm surprised they lumped the Scion tC in there.
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:23 AM   #6
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I'm surprised they lumped the Scion tC in there.
I wonder if that includes the factory supercharged version.
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:34 AM   #7
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KC - Join the dark side.

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Old 11-16-2005, 09:49 AM   #8
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I can't see in the dark. (Would need to drum up some sponsorship if I were to do it... and more time off from work... and no commitments to a wife or anything like that)

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Old 11-16-2005, 10:09 AM   #9
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The ONLY reason I'm against this is because the plan is to combine SSB and T3 in 2007. If you have any idea how you can make a 2001 Mazda Miata competitive with a Mazdaspeed Miata, or a 2.5RS competitive with a WRX, I'd love to hear them. THe comp board has said they will make competitiion adjustments to keep these cars competitive, but have been unable to say how they can make these cars competitive.

If they do this, they will be alienating all of the non BMW Z4 SSB cars, or 33 cars (including myself) that ran at the Runoffs this year. I see zero logic in killing off one of the 5 most popular classes at the Runoffs.

If the proposal was T3 = new, SSB --> T4, and SSC --> T5, I'd be all for it, but the master plan sucks.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:09 PM   #10
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So now we'll have Spec Miata AND "Spec RX-8" at the 06 Runoffs.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:24 PM   #11
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Spec Subaru in T2 and Spec Viper in T1
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:04 AM   #12
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Seems like the predictions were correct; RX8 is definitely the car to beat. I'm still wondering if the WRX could do well though considering the STIs are dominating T2 when there is the 350Z which is allowed mods, has near 50:50 weight distribution, multi-link set-up and decent power.

Edit: D'oh, just saw the date on this thread after searching for news on the Legacy GT in Touring 3. Sorry guys.
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Actually, the Legacy in the class wasn't close to sorted and Stan Wilson in his Cobalt was doing great until his brakes went out.

I think the right statement is "The RX-8 is definetly the most sorted car in the class currently"

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Old 10-29-2006, 05:02 PM   #14
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Actually, the Legacy in the class wasn't close to sorted and Stan Wilson in his Cobalt was doing great until his brakes went out.

I think the right statement is "The RX-8 is definetly the most sorted car in the class currently"

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hrmmm, in your opinion, how much would it take to bring a WRX up to par?
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:11 PM   #15
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$2-3k for a motor
$3-4k for shocks
$3k good cage
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$5-7500 in transmissions seriously

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Old 10-29-2006, 06:43 PM   #16
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jeebus didn't expect so much for transmissions
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:47 PM   #17
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I'm considering $2500 for each new transmission. Considering an STi will break one, the WRX will probably shed a couple per year.

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Even after all the costs, I still wonder if the WRXs increased power can make up for the deficiency in its handling.
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my money is on the rx-8. all of those other cars have major flaws in the suspension setup that can't be fixed within the touring ruleset. the rx-8, not so much. unless they hand the rx-8 a lot of weight, the double wishbone suspension, good gearing, good power, 50/50 weight distribution, etc. will all add up to make for one dominant t3 car.

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Yep, "well sorted" with few flaws and lighter weight. But not so much on the "good power" part. Should be enough though.

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